At the end of the day, regardless of what exactly Polaris/Indian/Victory does, they build an OK nice bike to each is own? Personally, I think the Chieftain is a pretty cool bike compared to a Road King, outside that, I don't think there in the game. Aside from all those opinions, heres the real truth. I took a long weekend ride this past weekend to the U.P. Munising and Pictured Rock. When we left Gaylord and stopped for lunch in some small town in the UP I noticed I had oil splattered on the right side of the motor coming from somewhere around the oil filter, or oil pump. Of course I checked my oil, continued on to Munising. I went to the HD logo on my Roadtech, I saw there was a HD dealer in Marquette 35 miles west of where we were. I called the dealer and asked if they could look at my bike in the morning, at 9:10 I was there, at 9:40 I was on the road again and it cost me zero. Try and find an Indian dealer when touring! There are two in Michigan, one in Canton, the other in Grand Rapids. They have a long way to go before they can come close to matching the network body Harley Davidson has.