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[killjoy]

oops! did I bring my Harley to Honda week?

This year's Biketoberfest brought more crotch-rocket jockeys and jockettes than I have ever seen. I think every year the total population of participants increases, but the number of Harley riders decreases. Metric vendors, sponsors and representatives were everywhere and easily doubled or tripled Harley-based promotions. Hell, even Hooter's hosted the "Metric Revolution" all weekend.

You may say, what the heck it's about motorcycling - not brands. Hmmmmm. What I saw confirmed in my mind that Bikers and crotch-monkeys are two completley different breeds and have no business in the same place at the same time. Just a bunch of 20 year old kids with 5 grand worth of credit and no clue. Like angry bees swarming in every direction showing off way beyond their ability and most importantly, putting everyone else at risk.

I watched a pedestrian get run down and killed in front of the track by a young punk who took off from the light so fast he couldn't hold on to his "bike". Just one example - I could go on and on (although that was the worst). The city of Daytona and the organizers of BW & BTF really should separate the event to support separate schedules for the Bikers and the crotch-monkeys.

...off my

[RedFXR2]

This year's Biketoberfest brought more crotch-rocket jockeys and jockettes than I have ever seen. I think every year the total population of participants increases, but the number of Harley riders decreases.
You may say, what the heck it's about motorcycling - not brands. Hmmmmm.

You're the second attendee I've heard say this exact thing.  I don't have any problem with it, myself, as l long as everybody acts responsibly.  The more the merrier and who cares who rides what?  But of course, they don't (always act responsibly).  The only rider I saw acting foolish at Sebring a few weeks back was a crotch rocket hitting the redline in first up and down the streets.  Too fast, too close, to too many people.

I watched a pedestrian get run down and killed in front of the track by a young punk who took off from the light so fast he couldn't hold on to his "bike". Just one example - I could go on and on (although that was the worst).

That incident made the paper down here.  Apparently a couple was crossing the street and the crotch rocket came up so fast it knocked the wife out of her husband's hand and up the street, killing her.

Since you went, I trust we can assume that your bike is bike together and running good?  Glad to hear that.

[grc]

oops! did I bring my Harley to Honda week?

This year's Biketoberfest brought more crotch-rocket jockeys and jockettes than I have ever seen. I think every year the total population of participants increases, but the number of Harley riders decreases. Metric vendors, sponsors and representatives were everywhere and easily doubled or tripled Harley-based promotions. Hell, even Hooter's hosted the "Metric Revolution" all weekend.

You may say, what the heck it's about motorcycling - not brands. Hmmmmm. [highlight]What I saw confirmed in my mind that Bikers and crotch-monkeys are two completley different breeds and have no business in the same place at the same time. Just a bunch of 20 year old kids with 5 grand worth of credit and no clue. Like angry bees swarming in every direction showing off way beyond their ability and most importantly, putting everyone else at risk. [/highlight]
I watched a pedestrian get run down and killed in front of the track by a young punk who took off from the light so fast he couldn't hold on to his "bike". Just one example - I could go on and on (although that was the worst). The city of Daytona and the organizers of BW & BTF really should separate the event to support separate schedules for the Bikers and the crotch-monkeys.

...off my

[SEULTRA]

I guess when you're there seeing it all happen in front of you, what you see is what forms your opinion. Jerry is right though ... there's idiots riding all brands of scoots. All it takes is money to swing your leg over one.... some $5,000 worth, some $50,000 worth.  

[bigdog257]

I have a 20 year old stepson and he's is right on with that description. His myspace page has "Your not a real biker till you go down. I've gone down over 20 times but practice makes perfect."

Did I tell you he's an idiot? No common sense at all.


Bigdog

[Fired00d]

I have a 20 year old stepson and he's is right on with that description. His myspace page has "Your not a real biker till you go down. I've gone down over 20 times but practice makes perfect."

Did I tell you he's an idiot? No common sense at all.


Bigdog

Nope, you hadn't told us that before, but his "Myspace" comment tells it all . I know there is a saying that states...... "There are two kinds of riders, those that have been down, and those that are going down". However going down 20 times to me would say that maybe motorcycle riding isn't for him (especially if he's not competing, and even then it would make me wonder if the sport of competition riding was for him). [smiley=confused5.gif]

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Ride Safe,
Fired00d
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[killjoy]

I have a 20 year old stepson and he's is right on with that description. His myspace page has "Your not a real biker till you go down. I've gone down over 20 times but practice makes perfect."

I went down on mine earlier this year, and my position towards the topic is "Crashing Sucks".

did we think it was cool when we were kids, or has MTV and (c)rap music just plain made kids dumber? Maybe it's all they can do, so they call it cool in self-denial? I don't know for sure, but I do know this...

Wherever they are, I prefer to be somewhere else.

[killjoy]

killjoy,

I can relate to your feelings on this subject, but I've seen plenty of inexperienced or inebriated idiots on Harleys doing the same things.

[bigdog257]

Firedood, he crashes so much because he tries to do all those stunts they do on movies. He tore his first bike up then it was repossessed. He joins the Marines which is a good thing but he is at it again. In the hole financially and bought another bike he can't make payments on.

He has made statements to me about his riding ability being better then mine because he can do stoppies. I just get frustrated by stupid people with no regard to life either theirs or someone else's.


Ok I'm done [smiley=soapbox.gif]

Bigdog

[SPIDERMAN]

Firedood, he crashes so much because he tries to do all those stunts they do on movies. He tore his first bike up then it was repossessed. He joins the Marines which is a good thing but he is at it again. In the hole financially and bought another bike he can't make payments on.

He has made statements to me about his riding ability being better then mine because he can do stoppies. I just get frustrated by stupid people with no regard to life either theirs or someone else's.


Ok I'm done [smiley=soapbox.gif]

Bigdog

Bigdog,
      

[RedFXR2]

He has made statements to me about his riding ability being better then mine because he can do stoppies. ]

I would say there's a difference between doing stunts and being a good rider.  How is his judgement in traffic?  His ability to foresee possible hazards before they present themselves?  IMO, being a good rider means safely logging the miles without crashing.

[RedFXR2]

The thing I value most is my experience which prevents me from getting into accidents as opposed to being young and tough enough to bounce up off the road and laugh them off.

What he said. [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]

[killjoy]

...he crashes so much because he tries to do all those stunts they do on movies....Bigdog

BigDog, is one of these guys your step-son? Check out the link.... http://www.uponone.com/videos.php?id=1862 (hope it works)