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Re: Time to cam up my 2012 RGCVO 110
« Reply #15 on: August 18, 2015, 04:19:10 PM »

Cranking the squeeze up to 10.5 should have been a substancial gain in torque at the very least.
A Wood 8 @ 10.75 cr in a 30T spocket-equipped 113" will show any easy 130 hp, with torque at near the same/same number. :2vrolijk_21:
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Re: Time to cam up my 2012 RGCVO 110
« Reply #16 on: August 19, 2015, 03:27:37 PM »

JBBrown you have what I consider one of the best combinations that work for the 110.  They give up very little on the bottom end to, relieve the heat and have the potential to deliver decent numbers.

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Time to cam up my 2012 RGCVO 110
« Reply #17 on: August 19, 2015, 03:53:40 PM »

Texas103 you are still running this build in your 110 right?  24d, a little compression, S&S Lifters and Fullsac baffles?

Just no port work, is that still the case?
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Re: Time to cam up my 2012 RGCVO 110
« Reply #18 on: August 19, 2015, 04:38:25 PM »

Another rock-solid known combo is to set 'em at 10.0 cr with an S&S .570.
58 S/E t/body is a great addition, and most any known good ehaust.
Super-simple build that dumps heat.
Nuttin' to it. :2vrolijk_21: :2vrolijk_21:
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Re: Time to cam up my 2012 RGCVO 110
« Reply #19 on: August 20, 2015, 12:56:48 PM »

Fueling 574 cams on a 2012 Road glide ultra 103, would it be worth while to add the SE heads and 10.1 : 1 matching pistons with SE 58mm throttle body? I have the Fulsac dx pipe with 2" cores and SE ventilator AC.

What is it yours lacks?
IME adding compression and airflow with this cam in a 103 they didn't scale as well as others with similar duration. It is an exhaust thing, not pipe as much as LC and duration of the cam. My advice ride it as-is or change cams and do head work. No piston change is needed either. It is a very simple and cost effective way to get to 115/115 with a strong torque curve and still retain the stock TB and injectors.
The CVO 110 motor same applies but the HP and torque numbers end up in the low 120s square

I installed the 574's already and just started to tune with the TTS but was only able to do a few Vtune runs before heading back overseas, reading a few things here and looking at the dyno charts on the feuling site http://www.feulingparts.com/dynocharts.php with just the 574 cams and no increase in compression it appears there is less torque in the lower RPM range than with the increase in compression. I was looking for some feedback as I do notice a dip in power at the lower RPM's but since it hasn't been really tuned yet it's hard for me to tell. I was looking at the SE Heads, pistons and 58mm throttle body in the Stage 4 SE kit as a worthwhile upgrade.
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« Reply #20 on: August 20, 2015, 01:02:18 PM »

Scott thanks for sharing as we all know it's caring.   I have not seen much of this cam used in a 110 or from people on this site.  However I have seen it used extensively in the 95, 103, and 107 builds.    The 110 is a slightly different animal though with the larger valves,  they also have the big throats not that that is new but still a challenge.   I have not seen results that would say take this cam and install it over the 24d.   While it may reduce heat with the design I have not seen enough evidence from the community that would make it a contender in a build I would do.   Do you have any imperial data on the difference of the 50 to 58 throttle body in numbers difference and what going to the bigger throttle would deliver for someone thinking this is the way to go over a more proven combination


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Re: Time to cam up my 2012 RGCVO 110
« Reply #21 on: August 20, 2015, 03:20:46 PM »

it appears there is less torque in the lower RPM range than with the increase in compression.

Adding timing which the combination can now use will fix that for the most part, not a recommendation of that cam however
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Re: Time to cam up my 2012 RGCVO 110
« Reply #22 on: August 21, 2015, 06:24:23 AM »

.570 @ 10.0 cr.
Let-r-rip. :2vrolijk_21:
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Re: Time to cam up my 2012 RGCVO 110
« Reply #23 on: August 21, 2015, 10:02:56 AM »

So if I was to keep the stock compression would the Andrews 54 be a better choice?
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Re: Time to cam up my 2012 RGCVO 110
« Reply #24 on: August 21, 2015, 06:56:49 PM »

So if I was to keep the stock compression would the Andrews 54 be a better choice?
The 54 will work, but IMO not a better choice than the 24D.
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Re: Time to cam up my 2012 RGCVO 110
« Reply #25 on: August 23, 2015, 05:10:42 PM »

The 54 will work, but IMO not a better choice than the 24D.
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John do you have an opinion on the TTS 100 cam? Wonder how it would do on a 110 with a bit more compression and head work.
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Re: Time to cam up my 2012 RGCVO 110
« Reply #26 on: August 23, 2015, 08:33:15 PM »

No real world experience with the TTS cam.
My choice would be a 24D with a little more compression (90 cc X .030" HG) on a 110.
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Re: Time to cam up my 2012 RGCVO 110
« Reply #27 on: August 23, 2015, 10:07:27 PM »

No real world experience with the TTS cam.
My choice would be a 24D with a little more compression (90 cc X .030" HG) on a 110.
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I'm considering the TTS 100, GMR 577, or the Kury 24D as you recommend. I'm going to see my builder to get all the specs on the headwork, etc he did previously in order to see which would be the best match for what mods I do have.

I read that the 24D can't use stock pushrods due to different base circles (not sure what that means, lol). I don't want to use adjustables, so what fixed length pushrods will work with those cams?
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Re: Time to cam up my 2012 RGCVO 110
« Reply #28 on: August 23, 2015, 10:21:17 PM »

According to the Kury website, adjustable pushrods are required. That's stupid. If that's the case, I'm taking that off the list and instead would go with the GMR 577, as the specs are close and I could use regular non-adjustable pushrods. Or the TTS.....
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Re: Time to cam up my 2012 RGCVO 110
« Reply #29 on: August 24, 2015, 06:53:26 AM »

I would imagine that Mike Roland has a good reason for that pushrod suggestion. :2vrolijk_21:
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