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[conmore]

Hi there

I have just started researching the possibility of swapping out the standard front turn signals to LED's. Come across a couple of companies that specialize in these but I do have a couple of questions.

Here in Australia the CVO Street Glide comes equipped with single filament (1156) front turn signals. I swapped the standard amber lens and clear incandescent globe to amber globes with smoke lenses not long after I got the bike.

Am I right in thinking that with this setup I can only have a single amber led light and NOT the type say Custom Dynamics have that's a bright white light that's on and flashing amber when the turn signal is activated? To go this route would the front turn signals need to be rewired?

And do I need a load equalizer with the led setup if I'm only using a single amber led? Recommendations for a plug and play unit?

Cheers

[Tru-Blu]

I don't know if I'll get this right, but I'm sure someone can clean up my mess if I get it wrong.   

You should be able to use the Dynamic Ringz without any issue, but I'm pretty sure that you'll need the Load Equalizer to get the flash rate back to the correct speed.  The bigger issue might be whether or not you'll be stopped by your local law enforcement for the Ringz.  They're not Department of Transportation (DOT)-compliant over here in the States, which means that they are not technically legal to run.  However, many have them on their bikes and have not had any issues with law enforcement for them. 

I just received mine yesterday, and I had to order the load equalizer.  I've got a 13 SERK that has the LED panels in the back end, and I initially thought that Harley would have already put a load equalizer in to balance the normal bulbs that were in the front signals.  Custom Dynamics indicated that I would still need the load equalizer.  To test this, I just threw the Dynamic Ringz on the fronts with smoked deep dish bezels (which looks fantastic, btw), and sure enough the signals will flash faster than what they are supposed to.  For the first 3 or 4 seconds, they were flashing at the normal rate, but quickly went into hyper mode and stayed there.

I think you'd be fine in going with the Ringz.  Just make sure you get the right load equalizer, as they are different or specific to certain models of Harleys.

Good luck,

Tru

[conmore]

Hi there

Thanks for the reply. So are you saying the Dynamic Ringz will work on my front turn signals even though they only use a single filament straight pin globe (1156) as opposed to the double filament offset pin globe (1157) that are standard on bikes for the US? To be sure.

Cheers

[Tru-Blu]

I pulled this off their website:

H-D Dynamic Ringz™  Bullet Style Turn Signal LED Inserts
 (NON DOT Approved)
 (BCM Compliant)
Amber/White 1156 (Single Intensity European Models)

Item: GEN200-AW-1156
Price: $79.95 (pair)

H-D Dynamic Ringz™  FLAT STYLE Turn Signal LED Inserts (NON-DOT Approved)
 (BCM Compliant)
Amber/White 1156 (Single Intensity European Models)

Item: GEN200-AW-1156-T
Price: $79.95 (pair)

If you give them the code of VTXOA it will give you a 5% discount.   

[Para Bellum]

So are you saying the Dynamic Ringz will work on my front turn signals even though they only use a single filament straight pin globe (1156) as opposed to the double filament offset pin globe (1157) that are standard on bikes for the US? To be sure.

Am I right in thinking that with this setup I can only have a single amber led light and NOT the type say Custom Dynamics have that's a bright white light that's on and flashing amber when the turn signal is activated? To go this route would the front turn signals need to be rewired?
Cheers

My experience with these same front turn signal LEDs (the GEN200-AW-1156 listed by Tru-Blu) on my '11 SERGU: No rewiring needed.  The stock front turn signals are 1156, so only one filament and a straight pin globe.  The Ringz work perfectly, even with my smoked lenses; also, I didn't need the load equalizer--they flashed at double-speed for about 4 flashes, then they went back to normal rate--and stayed that way.

However, when I replaced the rear turn signals (stock incandescent, not LED) with the GEN200-AW-1157, the combination of front and rear LED triggered the double-speed flashing, and it stayed that way.  I then installed the load equalizer, and they went back to normal speed.

Bottom line: The 1156 Ringz will work fine with smoke lenses, and no rewiring needed.  I can't tell if you'll need the load equalizer, though.

[conmore]

Hi there

Thanks for the replies folks. Now for load equalizers?? What do folks recommend and are they easy to plug and play? I've read Biketronics have a great reputation, but I'm sure there are other brands.

Cheers

[Tru-Blu]

I'd recommend the Signal Stabilizer that Custom Dynamics sells.  They generate far less heat than others and no produce no additional load.  Just make sure you get the right one for your year/model.

Good luck!

Tru

[conmore]

Hi there

I have another question and something that puzzles me. If my front turns are single filament then someone with more electrical knowledge please answer, then current is only applied to the turns when you activate the left or right button allowing current to operate the bulb? Yes?

So, with an LED replacement like the Dynamic Ringz that have a an ON running light and FLASH amber when activated how does this work if there is not consistent current to the globe/led to keep it ON?? Just asking.

Cheers

EDIT:: I think I got my answer to reading carefully on the Custom Dynamics website: "Note: European Dynamic Ringz™ require one wire to be fished through the housing and connected to the running light circuit."

[Tru-Blu]

Bingo

[ChopperPilot]

I have used Custom Dynamics LED turn signals (front and back) on two bikes, I don't think you can go wrong.
The folks at CD are great to work with and are very helpful over the phone.

[neil1b]

I'd like to chime in here.

I just installed the whole setup on my 11 fltruse.

I have 1157 front turns and 1156 rear as stock.

I went with there kit with bullet style ringz (white ring then amber turn) (1157) and rear red (1156) turn signals.  Also picked up the slimline signal stabilizer and triple play module.  All was 299.00 out the door.   Great Deal.

They told me you must use the same number as the stock. (single vs dual)

So, I was in a rush and installed the fronts and pushed it in 180 degrees the wrong way and "click" the led locked in the socket but wasn't in properly.  Two hours of attempting to get it back out with no luck.  Had to pull the bash in two pieces ruining the unit.

So, pissed off I installed the rear led's only.  When you install only on set on the touring (and many other) the first time you use the signal they flash fast for a couple of cycles and then are normal as a previous poster stated.  There is no need to buy a stabilizer is you are just doing one set.

Called Custom Dynamics and explained what had happened (spoke to Dave) and he stated it wasn't the first time that has happened and they seem to lock in place.  He stated I can send it back and they would replace and repair the base to make it as good as new and ship it back to me for free!!!!  (what great customer service and a great company!!!!)  even though I still offered to pay as it was my own fault, but they refused and did it for free!!!

With all four LED's installed you will need the signal stabilizer. 

I also picked up the triple play (thus why I went with rear RED LED's instead of the stock Amber's) which turns the rear turn signals into running/brake/turn.  Also it can control the turns and/or brake to do all different patterns during the brake process to get the car's attention.

Also a great match with the Daymakers.

Bottom Line Great Products, Great Staff (Dave and Lynn), and Great Company.

I'll get some pics up this weekend.

Neil

[Tru-Blu]

Agree with Neil. They will always have my lighting business for any bike I own.

[Glenncarp]

I don't know if I'll get this right, but I'm sure someone can clean up my mess if I get it wrong.   

You should be able to use the Dynamic Ringz without any issue, but I'm pretty sure that you'll need the Load Equalizer to get the flash rate back to the correct speed.  The bigger issue might be whether or not you'll be stopped by your local law enforcement for the Ringz.  They're not Department of Transportation (DOT)-compliant over here in the States, which means that they are not technically legal to run.  However, many have them on their bikes and have not had any issues with law enforcement for them. 

I just received mine yesterday, and I had to order the load equalizer.  I've got a 13 SERK that has the LED panels in the back end, and I initially thought that Harley would have already put a load equalizer in to balance the normal bulbs that were in the front signals.  Custom Dynamics indicated that I would still need the load equalizer.  To test this, I just threw the Dynamic Ringz on the fronts with smoked deep dish bezels (which looks fantastic, btw), and sure enough the signals will flash faster than what they are supposed to.  For the first 3 or 4 seconds, they were flashing at the normal rate, but quickly went into hyper mode and stayed there.

I think you'd be fine in going with the Ringz.  Just make sure you get the right load equalizer, as they are different or specific to certain models of Harleys.

Good luck,

Tru

No load EQ is needed, I have had mine on the front for a year now and no issues whatsoever. HD salesman stated the Rinz "learn" by switching the right directional on and letting it blink for a few second and then doing the same with the left. Worked for me and with my HID headlights and the ringz, the SERGU looks nasty!

[mitch.smith]

http://www.radiantz.com/index1.html?c15.html&1
 I use these on my 2012 SESG and also put them on my 2003 RK Classic.  Changed RK to bullet lights front and rear along with LED Trucklite pahse 7 on both bikes. 100% LED on both all lights.  You will need the load Balancers for the turn signals pick them up at kury web site along with adapter harness where you need not splice!!

[dayne66]

I thought the white ring was deactivated during signalling......the flashing pic looks like it alternates between white halo and amber center. The text is somewhat misleading....it says "and when the turn signal is activated it switches to the 24 amber LEDs"  I not sure what the cops'll think about clear flashing lites.

Can't call their 1-877# from Canada....the regular # wants an extension...if not dial '0'...zero is an invalid entry......so, just hold as if I had a rotary phone......mailbox full....click...dead air.

I've tried a few times to call...hate e-mailing....one 5 minute call can convey much more info than a  dozen e-mails.