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Is a 22LR a good round?
« on: October 26, 2013, 11:36:36 AM »

This is very interesting.  Granted, a 22 will not make a big hole, but this video proves that it can be a lethal round at much further distances than I ever thought possible.

http://bearingarms.com/a-22-will-kill-you-further-than-you-can-shoot-it-accurately/
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Re: Is a 22LR a good round?
« Reply #1 on: October 26, 2013, 12:04:04 PM »

I have said for years, probably because my dad said it for years, People dont realize what this round can do and therefore dont respect it which can make it dangerous. However, me and dad are definitely not in favor of gun control, it's just that most people arent educated on them.
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Re: Is a 22LR a good round?
« Reply #2 on: October 26, 2013, 01:27:48 PM »

.22LR is probably my favorite caliber.  One of the most versatile round out there.  You can practice shooting all day and it won't hurt your wallet.  If used correctly, it can be extremely lethal.  Plus you don't have to worry with reloading.   :2vrolijk_21:
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Re: Is a 22LR a good round?
« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2013, 01:40:17 PM »

Interesting stuff! I never would have imagined it would retain that much energy at those distances. I've been playing around with my 17 HMR at moderate distances, 150-200 yds; shot an armadillo at about 160 and it was DRT. I think it's more accurate than 22LR but I don't think that little 17 grain bullet would have as much energy down range at 400 yards or more.

I liked this comment on the page:

"I used a .22 short for bear protection. My friend and I were hiking in the woods and a grizzly momma came at us. So I pulled out my Beretta .22 short semi-automatic, shot my companion in the kneecap, then walked away at a brisk pace to safety!"
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Re: Is a 22LR a good round?
« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2013, 01:54:47 PM »

Very interesting indeed. Love my 10/22 and Marlin lever action. Grandpa had me shooting .22LR when I was so young rifle was placed on sandbag rest. Great fun.
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Re: Is a 22LR a good round?
« Reply #5 on: October 26, 2013, 02:44:03 PM »

22 LR
Maximun distance to make a clean kill 75 yards or less.
Maximum distance to mame 75 yards and beyond.

The box used to say range 1 mile.

RANGE 1 MILE !

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Re: Is a 22LR a good round?
« Reply #6 on: October 26, 2013, 03:44:48 PM »

Always, had a 22 rifle and pistol in the collection.  Lots of uses for those guns and as others have said, easy on the wallet.

 
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Re: Is a 22LR a good round?
« Reply #7 on: October 26, 2013, 03:46:59 PM »

22 LR
Maximun distance to make a clean kill 75 yards or less.
Maximum distance to mame 75 yards and beyond.

The box used to say range 1 mile.

RANGE 1 MILE !

Don't kill a stranger - shoot smart - can't be too careful

I think we all agree... that given the right elevation, yes the .22LR could potentially travel 1 mile and possibly cause injury even at that distance.

I think it was intended as a Warning to those who really didn't understand the 'basics' of gun safety.

That said, I'm in total agreement with all... I seldom go out into the backcountry without at least my Ruger Mark III.  Never know when a grouse is going to pop up.   8)
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Re: Is a 22LR a good round?
« Reply #8 on: October 26, 2013, 04:18:08 PM »

There was a young girl killed in Maryland back in the mid to late 60's by a stray 22 from almost a mile away.  Bad luck to be sure, it hit her behind the ear.  But it was from a man hunting squirrels with a 22 almost a mile away.  And being Maryland, he was charged with manslaughter.  And back in 2011 an Ohio girl was killed from more than a mile away by a .22.  It happens way more often than it should, and really makes me wonder when I see the rabble firing their Kalashnikov's into the air.  Where does all than lead end up falling to the ground.

What it comes down to is that a little piece of lead will retain lethal energy over a very long distance.  A 22 LR firing a common 40gn load has 110 pounds of muzzle energy.  And based on the video still has more than half of it left at 440 yards.  It's the velocity that gives it the punch, starting out at around 1100fps.  And being so small in frontal area, the .22 retains it's velocity for a long distance.

We use a similar 40 grain bullet to hunt groundhogs.  It's a copper jacketed ballistic tip that gets pushed to 4000fps and more than 1400 pounds of muzzle energy.

The old 5.56 that some may have lugged around at one time or another originally fired  a 55 grain full jacketed 22 caliber bullet and had about 1200 pounds of muzzle energy.  
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Re: Is a 22LR a good round?
« Reply #9 on: October 28, 2013, 11:04:17 AM »

Unless I missed it, they didn't specify the round used.
That's pretty good shooting at 440 yards with a 22.

My ballistic table for a CCI 40 gr mini mag lists:

at the muzzle - 1235 FPS, 135 Ft-Lb
450 yards - 680 FPS, 41 Ft-Lb with a drop of 399.5" 33 feet of drop!
BTW. 1.5 seconds of travel time.

At the range I really enjoy my S&W AR 15-22. I find it scoped to be really accurate, more so then I can shoot it.
But, using less then ideal ammo (remington gold) I find a lot of flyers. Typically a group at 200 yards will have 8-10 shots in an 8" circle with 1 or 2 well outside.

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Re: Is a 22LR a good round?
« Reply #10 on: October 28, 2013, 01:20:01 PM »

I've found the most accurate and still gets the job done .22LR ammo to be the Remington SubSonics.  A little slower, less heating of the barrel, a few dead rounds... but very accurate and dime sized groups at 40yds.  Which is where I usually take Grouse (headshots) on the ground with my Mark III with simple red-dot.   8)
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Re: Is a 22LR a good round?
« Reply #11 on: October 28, 2013, 02:35:31 PM »



I have always enjoyed my 22's.
The property in Maggie Valley has groundhogs.
The below 10/22T is great for practice on them.
After I shot a couple I asked, "what do I do with a dead groundhog?"
The answer I got was, "don't worry about it, the bears will get them."

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Re: Is a 22LR a good round?
« Reply #12 on: October 28, 2013, 07:35:37 PM »


I have always enjoyed my 22's.
The property in Maggie Valley has groundhogs.
The below 10/22T is great for practice on them.
After I shot a couple I asked, "what do I do with a dead groundhog?"
The answer I got was, "don't worry about it, the bears will get them."


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I like that.  Around here the answer is that "Crows gotta eat too".



   
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Re: Is a 22LR a good round?
« Reply #13 on: October 28, 2013, 07:49:11 PM »

I like that.  Around here the answer is that "Crows gotta eat too".


Ahhh, didn't think about that.
But your right!

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Re: Is a 22LR a good round?
« Reply #14 on: October 28, 2013, 09:03:02 PM »

That's a beauty Chip, I have the same banana clip and love it you can always see how many you have left. :2vrolijk_21:
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