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Re: Gear drive cams
« Reply #15 on: November 24, 2006, 05:39:33 PM »

If you go to gear drive be prepared for more engine noise.  My gear drive Zippers 575's are quiet when cold but get a little noisy when hot.  If your pipes are fairly loud you won't notice much...
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Re: Gear drive cams
« Reply #16 on: November 24, 2006, 05:47:45 PM »

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Re: Gear drive cams
« Reply #17 on: December 04, 2006, 04:46:27 PM »

No, does that keep the noise down? [smiley=nixweiss.gif]

  I did add the Baisley spring though
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Re: Gear drive cams
« Reply #18 on: December 04, 2006, 05:13:07 PM »

I think you'll find the whole motor somewhat quieter at high temps with the increased scavage and flow of the Feuling...
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Re: Gear drive cams
« Reply #19 on: December 04, 2006, 06:53:41 PM »

I'm thinking of going to gear drive cams next Spring.  I notice some of you have the Freedom FCC9 and others have the 14.  What is the best set up for my '05 Banana with Freedom pipes etc.  Bike has a Power Commander.  I don't really want to split the cases to install a Timken bearing. [smiley=banana.gif]

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Re: Gear drive cams
« Reply #20 on: December 04, 2006, 10:16:57 PM »

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Re: Gear drive cams
« Reply #21 on: December 04, 2006, 11:36:47 PM »

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Re: Gear drive cams
« Reply #22 on: December 04, 2006, 11:41:08 PM »

Hmm, for whatever reason that link pulled a Humpty Dumpty and I was like all the Kings horses and men.  So try this instead:

http://www.gpdesigns.net/whatsnew/twin_cam_outer_bearing_support.html
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« Reply #23 on: December 04, 2006, 11:42:47 PM »

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Chris, if you're concerned about the bottom end at all or just want to ease your own mind on the matter there is a device that (apparently) offers real improvement over stock and does so without having to open the bottom end.
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Re: Gear drive cams
« Reply #24 on: December 04, 2006, 11:44:19 PM »

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Don, this link comes up "Product Not Found" I was curious what it was. Hoist!


It's a different kind of bearing support Hoist.  Take a look at the very next post right after the one with the screwed up link.
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« Reply #25 on: December 04, 2006, 11:53:17 PM »

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[highlight]It's a different kind of bearing support [/highlight]Hoist.
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Re: Gear drive cams
« Reply #26 on: December 05, 2006, 12:02:22 AM »

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Got it Don. Wow, what a great idea. And that thing looks bulletproof too. What about interference with the Primary Chain tensioner or the Hayden Auto Chain Tensioner, any issue you see? Hoist!

Can't speak to bulletproof.  But one can certainly hope!

I used this because I was upping the motor a bit, but not a ton.  I specifically was not doing enough to make me think I HAD to do the Timken conversion.  But I could do this piece and know I was adding a significant degree of insurance; and not have to split the cases to do it.

As to the tensioners; the early iterations of this part did not account for the Harley branded chain tensioner.  It wasn't a big deal as you could account for it by relieving a small amount of material from the unit in an area that harmed nothing by doing so.  The current version of the part is machined such that it accounts for the tensioner without having to do anything.  

Whey I asked them about it they didn't/wouldn't claim experience with the Hayden or other third party tensioners.  But the unit does specifically fit around the Harley branded unit now.

When ordering mine I was assuming that it was another of those pieces we do whose price is significantly accounted for by what it does or that we'll pay for it every bit as much as what it is.  When you get this in hand, however, it is an impressive part.  Anyone who has ever spent any time with machine tools will be immediately impressed.  It is a beautifully made set of components that goes together like music.  Really really sweet.
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« Reply #27 on: December 05, 2006, 12:21:48 AM »

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Re: Gear drive cams
« Reply #28 on: December 05, 2006, 12:39:05 AM »

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That's what I thought when I saw it and called it "bulletproof". Between that and the Feuling, you got a lot tied up in bearing support plates! Ithink it's money well spent though. For what you did to that motor, a little insurance can go a long way toward peace of mind. Especially if you're still concerned about those heat marks. I think that was from the forging process, not your engine. I would definitely consider this if I was doing a hot-rod top end job. BTW, I didn't check, are they only for TCs or do they have them for EVO's as well? Hoist!


Hoist, if memory serves they didn't offer an EVO product.  And as much as I'm pleased to have added the Feuling plate when I was working mine I would have been satisfied with the OE part were it not for a smoking deal on eBay.  Someone had a Feuling plate listed awhile back while I was still in "wait" mode for all the parts to get in.  But the seller spelled Feuling considerably wrong and apparently no one but me found the listing.  Seller had started it at $110.00 (I think that's what it was, darn close anyhow) and it never went up from there.

I agree that I think what we saw on my rods was never a problem within the engine.  Enough so that while I was willing to jaw about it I never seriously considered doing anymore than that.  And if I was really concerned there was something going on I'd not have not taken care of while I was already that far in.  But hopefully the believed lack of problem there, along with the extras like the Feuling oiling parts and the bearing support will make this a motor that can hum away for a long time to come.
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Hoist, if memory serves they didn't offer an EVO product.
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