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Re: Starting bike in Neutral
« Reply #60 on: November 05, 2013, 10:13:55 PM »

I guess it depends on region and training. I know and have ridden with several, none of them do. I'll ask the instructor when I see him in December.

What geographic area are you in?
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Re: Starting bike in Neutral
« Reply #61 on: November 05, 2013, 10:55:51 PM »

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Re: Starting bike in Neutral
« Reply #62 on: November 06, 2013, 03:26:56 AM »

Anyone leave their stick shift car in neutral when parked..............of course not  :nixweiss:

I always park the Z06 in neutral unless on a hill, with the handbrake on
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Re: Starting bike in Neutral
« Reply #63 on: November 06, 2013, 05:26:59 AM »

Put the bike on a lift, make sure it's strapped down. Start it up in neutral the rear wheel will spin. You can stop it by hand, but it will rotate on it's own in neutral. Start it in 1st with clutch in, it'll spin faster with more torque to the wheel. I've only done this after detailing and engine wasn't warmed up, but as Jerry said clutch drag.
Same with my bike  may be because it is a (slip clutch) design ?
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Re: Starting bike in Neutral
« Reply #64 on: November 06, 2013, 11:24:02 AM »

There is a reason that Motor officers always start in first gear and foot on brake..................................................

Motos have a different way of life when it comes to the bikes.
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Re: Starting bike in Neutral
« Reply #65 on: November 06, 2013, 11:32:01 AM »

There is a reason that Motor officers always start in first gear and foot on brake..................................................

What geographic area are you in?

I just checked with #1 son who is a motor here in Jersey and did the Philly Motor school this past spring.
"Parked in gear - start in neutral"
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Re: Starting bike in Neutral
« Reply #66 on: November 06, 2013, 11:43:50 AM »

Absolutely no reason to park in gear; none whatsoever....


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Re: Starting bike in Neutral
« Reply #67 on: November 06, 2013, 11:48:37 AM »

 I run a toe, if it's not in gear it will roll away

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Re: Starting bike in Neutral
« Reply #68 on: November 06, 2013, 12:05:34 PM »

Absolutely no reason to park in gear; none whatsoever....




Folks who are too dumb to figure out how to deploy a simple side stand probably shouldn't be entrusted to park your bike.  Just sayin'.

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Re: Starting bike in Neutral
« Reply #69 on: November 06, 2013, 12:09:53 PM »

Folks who are too dumb to figure out how to deploy a simple side stand probably shouldn't be entrusted to park your bike.  Just sayin'.

Jerry

Yeah.  Besides, who said it wasn't in gear?
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Re: Starting bike in Neutral
« Reply #70 on: November 06, 2013, 03:51:37 PM »

Absolutely no reason to park in gear; none whatsoever....



          Parking in gear  as a habit Will keep the bike from rolling on a steep incline Plus if some one is trying to steal the bike it is harder to roll even with clutch in.  Billy
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Re: Starting bike in Neutral
« Reply #71 on: November 06, 2013, 04:38:50 PM »

I always park the Z06 in neutral unless on a hill, with the handbrake on

Why in the world would you do this? The question applies to the bikes as well.

In the car, the handbrake is insuring that the car stays put. With my bike, the kickstand provides this function...

However, in BOTH cases, the trans in neutral is just, well, DUMB, in my opinion.

You have the option of double indemnity; security of the kickstand or handbrake backed by the security of the trans in gear.
It's free! no effort required to employ this wonderful security/ safety feature! You ride or drive to a stop, deploy the handbrake or jiffystand, kill the engine and walk away (hopefully you downshifted to first as you arrived).
The extra security of the engine/trans/free-wheelchock is totally free; but no, you are going to extra effort to remove this security!?
WHY?
What's the downside that you willfully expend (admittedly little) energy to prevent?

Do you imagine that the transmission is somehow damaged by the practice?
Afraid that you might forget that it's in gear at start up time? That's a different issue and bad habit altogether.

EDIT: BTW, the Z can't be cranked without the clutch being depressed, regardless of gear selection.
What is the problem with parking in gear?

Really fellas, I gotsta know.

EDIT: a fellow here has a '13 Z06. I asked him just now if he parks in neutral with the HB on, he said YES! He couldn't tell me why, either!
(this should be enlightening)
« Last Edit: November 06, 2013, 05:37:53 PM by MrSurly »
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Re: Starting bike in Neutral
« Reply #72 on: November 06, 2013, 04:45:02 PM »

I always park the Z06 in neutral unless on a hill, with the handbrake on

I always leave rubicon or 328 in gear with handbrake. I don't trust the brake alone. It's not like a line lock, at least on any vehicles I've owned. The rear discs have a drum and shoe style brake on the inside of them. Mechanical cable puts tension on it to hold. You're vette probably has a better design than my vehicles. I know some are electronic now, but I don't know how it deploys. I would only trust it if it actually applied pressure to the hydraulic brakes and held it, I still would leave it in gear though. Just habit. For automatics I use, I only use e-brake if there is a good in/decline just to put a little less stress on parking pin or whatever you wanna call it in the auto. But that's me :nixweiss:
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Re: Starting bike in Neutral
« Reply #73 on: November 06, 2013, 04:59:35 PM »

I park my bike in first gear, put it in neutral to start. Let it warm up a little while I'm putting on my helmet and gloves.
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Re: Starting bike in Neutral
« Reply #74 on: November 06, 2013, 05:03:39 PM »

Leaving a car in neutral and setting the parking brake....

Ever see a parking brake cable snap and watch the car go rolling down a driveway into a busy street? (True Story)

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