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S&S 585 TQ/HP?
« on: January 05, 2014, 11:53:04 AM »

Have seen the 585 recommended several time by some of the builders here set at 10.5. Where is the torque curve at and what could be expected out of this cam at 10.5, and where would the 50mm TB move this cam compared to the 58mm TB? Any dyno sheets that could be posted?
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Re: S&S 585 TQ/HP?
« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2014, 03:09:03 PM »

 Did the 585 with 10:5 comp got 110hp and 120 fpt.  Lost a very tiny bit of torque below 3 grand but I am currently running a Rinehart true dual pipe with the 4 inch cans. Will probably change to a V&H Stainless Pro Pipe to get that bottom back. Above 3 grand, the bike is like a stock car. Just rips. Nice quest cam as well. After my build all the cam train noise is gone. Love my bike now.

   I am not to happy with the tune however, could not get the tuner I wanted. The owner of the shoppe took over and rushed my bike through. The actual guy was pissed. So I will have to go back this summer. Will get a few more points for sure.
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Re: S&S 585 TQ/HP?
« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2014, 03:32:12 PM »

What TB are you running on that build?
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Re: S&S 585 TQ/HP?
« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2014, 04:07:15 PM »

we use a lot of the 585`s.just finished a 107",our 1.900 STREET port headwork,10.5-1,stock T. body.made 110/124.ill post a dyno sheet when I get in the shop tuesday

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Re: S&S 585 TQ/HP?
« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2014, 04:20:24 PM »

Kirby, have you done a 110 build with this cam? I like the curve that CVO2 dyno sheet shows and if I could move it 200 to the left with a 55mm TB I would be really happy.
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Re: S&S 585 TQ/HP?
« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2014, 05:30:34 PM »

yes done a couple.ill see if I can find a dyno sheet or 2 when I get in the shop.set at 10.4 to 10.6-1,the 585 is a GREAT 110 cam set

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Re: S&S 585 TQ/HP?
« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2014, 05:36:03 PM »

Thank you Kirby. I am guessing the CCP would end 195-200?
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Re: S&S 585 TQ/HP?
« Reply #7 on: January 05, 2014, 06:02:08 PM »

What TB are you running on that build?

   Stock TB for now. Doing it step by step. Pipe and TB next year, then a full billet clutch. ( stock seems to be holding out well for now )
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Re: S&S 585 TQ/HP?
« Reply #8 on: January 05, 2014, 06:11:31 PM »

We have not used the .585 in a 110", but in other builds/sizes we used them in they push off about the same as a Wood 8, but they won't "strike" quite as aggressively, and is usually never felt.
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Re: S&S 585 TQ/HP?
« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2014, 06:33:44 PM »

Did the 585 with 10:5 comp got 110hp and 120 fpt.  Lost a very tiny bit of torque below 3 grand but I am currently running a Rinehart true dual pipe with the 4 inch cans. Will probably change to a V&H Stainless Pro Pipe to get that bottom back. Above 3 grand, the bike is like a stock car. Just rips. Nice quest cam as well. After my build all the cam train noise is gone. Love my bike now.

   I am not to happy with the tune however, could not get the tuner I wanted. The owner of the shoppe took over and rushed my bike through. The actual guy was pissed. So I will have to go back this summer. Will get a few more points for sure.

The 585 suffers terribly below 3000 rpm no matter what pipe you use. Numbers aren't everything when the area where the bike lives is worse that stock cams. If you're a twister the 585 is fine, if you're a cruiser you probably won't like it. Personally I don't care for the 585....there is more bang for the buck in some other brands.
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Re: S&S 585 TQ/HP?
« Reply #10 on: January 05, 2014, 07:18:58 PM »

Thanks Doc and Scott. I already have the 10.5 SE pistons with the 260 cam and that set up sucks. What I was looking for was reasonable price improvement. The 585 closing at 45 looked to be a big improvement from where I am and would still keep the compression where it would still run on pump gas or that was the hope anyhow....
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Re: S&S 585 TQ/HP?
« Reply #11 on: January 05, 2014, 09:35:05 PM »

I think the SE259E set a few tenths higher compression is a perfect choice for the 110 assuming you are trying to have better low speed manors and just as much charge on top.
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Re: S&S 585 TQ/HP?
« Reply #12 on: January 05, 2014, 10:06:37 PM »

Thanks Don. Head work has got moved back some. Baker had a Black Friday special on the DD7 so motor money is now down to not much and for some reason wife thinks I owe her too being she ordered it.... Go figure
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Re: S&S 585 TQ/HP?
« Reply #13 on: January 05, 2014, 10:37:41 PM »

yes done a couple.ill see if I can find a dyno sheet or 2 when I get in the shop.set at 10.4 to 10.6-1,the 585 is a GREAT 110 cam set
'Have the same question about the throttle bodies as yellow09 SERG in a 113.
Also interested in the 585 easy start, no more than 10.5-1 (a little less if I could get by with it) subscribed
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Re: S&S 585 TQ/HP?
« Reply #14 on: January 05, 2014, 11:20:42 PM »

FlaHeat we seem to have crossed paths again... I hope to install tranny next week if the temp will come up enough to get to the shop with the bike
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