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Using a Garmin with the '14 Infotainment System
« on: February 18, 2014, 05:10:54 AM »

Pretty well everyone who is serious about, and uses a GPS for, touring (Fine if you're happy with just maps, kudos to you, but lots of us are not) on their bike will know by now what a hug pile of Krapp the nav system is on the infotainment system on '14 bikes.  Totally unusable for serious touring.  So, you might want to use a Garmin instead, but there's no auxiliary jack.  Well, there's a possible solution!  :)  Harley have a part they call an "Audio Jack Jumper" part # 69200610. (see photo. )

It comes just as a little lead about 8" long, no instructions at all. One end is a male stereo jack, and the other end is a 12-pin female molex. It seems obvious - as that's the only connector of that type and colour (black) - that it's meant to connect to the harness where the CB module plugs in. The three wires are on pins 6, 7, and 8. Looking at the wiring diagram, these are unused, even when the CB module is connected. I think it comes with the connector on, as the main intention would be for 4.3" units, with no CB, but it is easy enough to extract the pins and put them in the same empty positions on a model with 6.5 CB plug. The wiring diagram shows these as Audio In 3 Right, Audio in 3 Left/Mono, and Audio in 3 Shield/Mono. When just connected in this way, it doesn't work, presumably because I believe there's a setting called "use external GPS"  in the Digital Technician that needs to be toggled to enable Audio In 3. We need to get the bike to the dealer to do this - but with the weather as it is, that's some weeks away.

But it would appear that the intention is that Audio Input 3 is free, and - presumably - has priority over other audio, so the problem of getting audio from a decent GPS is indeed hopefully solved.

Next question is about mounting the Garmin without obscuring anything else. Looks like on the left, and maybe the best bracket is HD's one that mounts on the two screws of the housing clamp. We *think* that should be OK for not obscuring anything else, but we won't know till we try.....
 
Plan is to use a Garmin Zumo 390LM, so for anyone that's not seen one of these, a little more info:
 
1) It will Bluetooth to the bike, with the same error as the 660, regarding not synching (bike thinks it's a phone) but will not play the nav instructions through the Infotainment system - hopefully a moot problem as this cable exists!
 
2) The 390LM has no MP3 playing facility built in - no biggie if it works with the infotainment system as we hope with this connector.
 
3) WTF were Garmin thinking when they designed this unit??? It /should/ be a logical replacement for the 660/665, because it has some great new features - service history recording, tyre pressure monitoring, twisty road route choice, enough RAM to load the whole region.... BUT: some things are crazy, real showstoppers. The bike cradle cable supplies power only, i.e. there is no harness connection for audio out, and the only place to connect a traffic receiver is the mini-USB socket, and the bike cradle obscures it. Ditto if you want to use the cigar lighter plug lead to mount it on a different bike temporarily - only intended for use with the car cradle, plugs into the USB socket, which the bike cradle covers. If you want to use the audio out, it's under a rubber flap on the bottom of the unit, and it's not going to be weatherproof when you have a jack plugged in. It is probably possible to Dremel a little out of the bike cradle to allow access to the USB plug, but to have to do so to connect a traffic receiver is simply nuts.
 
"Designed by bikers for bikers" eh? I think not.
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Re: Using a Garmin with the '14 Infotainment System
« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2014, 11:36:19 AM »

Any updates on if this actually worked to make a Garmin 660/665 work on a 14?
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Re: Using a Garmin with the '14 Infotainment System
« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2014, 12:08:32 PM »

Any updates on if this actually worked to make a Garmin 660/665 work on a 14?

Yes, it works, I'm told. However, I'm also told that it doesn't interrupt other audio, for sure with a normal 660/665, but it may do - I don't know, but I'd really like to! - with a Roadtech one.

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