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2013 TC 103" Sounds like a Sewing Machine
« on: May 04, 2014, 10:15:33 PM »

I have about 8K miles on my 13 Ultra TC 103' and it sounds like a wild sewing machine when it's running. What can I do to eliminate that rattling or at least quiet it down? I've heard roller rockers are the way to go. Any one confirm?
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Re: 2013 TC 103" Sounds like a Sewing Machine
« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2014, 10:11:24 AM »

My last two did this rally bad.  Synthetic oil made it worse, HD360 oil made it less intrusive, earplugs eliminated it completely.

60 WT conventional oil made it really hard to hear, but started kind of hard unless it was near 80 degrees out.

I've read stories on these boards about people chasing the noise like it was the White Whale.  I quit worrying about it.

My 110 doesnt do it.  But I do have the neutral rattle and a little ticking on cold start.
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Re: 2013 TC 103" Sounds like a Sewing Machine
« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2014, 11:06:27 AM »

Maybe some of the experts will chime in but I always heard the roller rockers are a little noisy. :nixweiss:
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Re: 2013 TC 103" Sounds like a Sewing Machine
« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2014, 11:48:32 AM »

Dollars to donuts, sight-unseen.............lifters, and/or the lack of the proper pre-load on the lifter.
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Re: 2013 TC 103" Sounds like a Sewing Machine
« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2014, 07:50:58 AM »

road runner the loud tick on start up is lifters. Swap in a set of quality lifters and you will be fine, Adding more pre load does nothing at all . The lifter is not progressive so,, it does not increase pressure if you run the plunger down further in the lifter.  Increased pre load past a certain point...is... well its pointless  :D
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Re: 2013 TC 103" Sounds like a Sewing Machine
« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2014, 07:41:35 PM »

Shows what you know.............. ;D
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Re: 2013 TC 103" Sounds like a Sewing Machine
« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2014, 07:46:01 PM »

Ok  The floor is open lets here factual information on how increasing pre-load will reduce lifter noise. ( starting from a base pre load of .100) 

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Re: 2013 TC 103" Sounds like a Sewing Machine
« Reply #7 on: May 06, 2014, 07:57:50 PM »

............you of ALL people are not the barometer of by which things are judged..........but you try hard...... :D :D :D :D
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Re: 2013 TC 103" Sounds like a Sewing Machine
« Reply #8 on: May 06, 2014, 08:05:34 PM »

............you of ALL people are not the barometer of by which things are judged..........but you try hard...... :D :D :D :D


If you want to have a technical discussion I am open to that.  You are stating that I am wrong. IF so one would need facts to back that up.  So again explain why running the plunger down further will do anything.. Once you have gone past the point of engine expansion there is no need for further depression. The entire job of a hyd lifter is to do nothing more than maintain constant pressure on the push-rod in this case.

If you have nothing to add that is of valve technically speaking , you have made your point.  :2vrolijk_21:
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Re: 2013 TC 103" Sounds like a Sewing Machine
« Reply #9 on: May 06, 2014, 09:03:15 PM »

Maybe the added preload (or less preload) changes the pushrod angle enough to get the ball in the cup better centered and not jump out.....
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Re: 2013 TC 103" Sounds like a Sewing Machine
« Reply #10 on: May 06, 2014, 10:16:16 PM »

  I would be very interested in hearing how increasing preload past a given point is going to do anything....A technical reason not just because I said so

   Not sure that is going to work on this one
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Re: 2013 TC 103" Sounds like a Sewing Machine
« Reply #11 on: May 07, 2014, 08:43:42 AM »

........isn't that special.......... :D :D :D
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Re: 2013 TC 103" Sounds like a Sewing Machine
« Reply #12 on: May 07, 2014, 09:40:00 AM »

Must be recess time again!
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Re: 2013 TC 103" Sounds like a Sewing Machine
« Reply #13 on: May 07, 2014, 09:51:07 AM »

Maybe the added preload (or less preload) changes the pushrod angle enough to get the ball in the cup better centered and not jump out.....
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OK JK
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If the valve stem protrusion is set up correctly as you know there really should not be an issue. I did get the chance end of last week to play around with the pre load.. I started at the STD base spec ( 2.5 turns with these) I then got the engine up to 275F. I started backing the pre load off by .025 increments  at .050 it rattled. I then went back increasing in .010 increments. at .060 the rattle went away. I brought the engine up to 325 ( full on parade mode) no issues.   :pepper:


   99% of the shops out there do not fret over setting to .140-.160 as the magic setting.  .100-.120 ( your normal spec) will get the job done with good parts every day of the week.   Now have some heads with jacked up geometry and spring pressure all over the board.. That's an issue in its self.

No to address the sillyness again  really??!!!

As I have said before To state to another shop they are wrong as that's not how its done in your shop is JUST your opinion.  Now  Palmer  if you can provide some real proof and actual technical information as to how it would be of benefit then that is great. I am sure no one is going to get upset about learning something.

 So many  shops out there are keeping up with the curve,...testing, installing, tuning ( back to back test and tune)  even having custom parts made to their specs which in turn help's out the industry. All in the search for things that work and then have valid data to show.  Real proof that has taken days and  weeks, months and in some cases years of testing . 
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Re: 2013 TC 103" Sounds like a Sewing Machine
« Reply #14 on: May 07, 2014, 10:13:23 AM »

Must be recess time again!

Yep............same ones time after time, with a distinct agenda. :2vrolijk_21: :2vrolijk_21:
Couldn't agree more.
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