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145"ers from S&S No More
« on: June 23, 2014, 01:54:03 PM »

Called to order another one of those brutish engines from those folks today, and was informed that they are now being phased out and are no longer available.
Star doesn't have any either.
S&S has something up their sleeve, and they are being tight-lipped, but I can hear it in them.
Something is brewing over there........
Scott
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Re: 145"ers from S&S No More
« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2014, 02:30:06 PM »

Called to order another one of those brutish engines from those folks today, and was informed that they are now being phased out and are no longer available.
Star doesn't have any either.
S&S has something up their sleeve, and they are being tight-lipped, but I can hear it in them.
Something is brewing over there........
Scott

Maybe the next gen CVO engine supplier to Harley????? The 110's getting a little "long in the tooth"!
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Re: 145"ers from S&S No More
« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2014, 05:10:48 PM »

Maybe an S&S water cooled?   :nixweiss:
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Re: 145"ers from S&S No More
« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2014, 06:48:00 PM »

300hp electric constant torque infinite wound motor running on light weight Li-Po batteries.
0-60 in 2.0 seconds. Top speed N/A  :nixweiss:
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Re: 145"ers from S&S No More
« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2014, 07:01:28 AM »

I'm suspecting that something in the mid-upper 130's cubic inch.
One for agricultural work, the other for screaming out the back door.
Only a good guess, gents.
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Re: 145"ers from S&S No More
« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2014, 09:52:52 AM »

Short enough to fit in a regular frame?
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Re: 145"ers from S&S No More
« Reply #6 on: June 24, 2014, 10:04:28 AM »

I think it would be so "cool" if they would do a water cooled engine!

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Re: 145"ers from S&S No More
« Reply #7 on: June 24, 2014, 11:10:21 AM »

Short enough to fit in a regular frame?
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Agree, I think their intentions are to build something bigger that fits in the frame without modding the frame. Probably available in either water cooled or air cooled but you can your bottom dollar that whatever it is, coming from S&S, it won't be a POS. It will likely be a dumbed down powerhouse that will come with a warranty and be priced cheap enough to buy it rather than build something that makes the same kind of power and reliability. Let a low come with a warranty. I am getting so many calls on the granite motors I think we are going to buy the jig that allows you to drill your trans cases to install the external lines yourself. We will charge our out of state mail order customers a $25 fee to rent the toll to do the work themselves and the hose kit that would be needed will probably be in the $50 range. This is the simplest and most practical and cost effective  way to handle the obstacle  that the T2 cases pose with not having the internal
oil lines machined in. We had planned to offer a service and we will offer a service toavhine the oil lines internally as the SE cases are made, however, this process requires the motor be unassbled and down time and cost do the lines internally increases the cost of the engine significantly because the engine has to be completely apart and the cases must be split to do this process correctly.
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Re: 145"ers from S&S No More
« Reply #8 on: June 24, 2014, 11:32:43 AM »

Short enough to fit in a regular frame?

I'd bet.
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Re: 145"ers from S&S No More
« Reply #9 on: June 24, 2014, 11:36:51 AM »

I also wanted to add that the 124's on granite are not stocked on the shelf just yet. We have ordered one for one of our customers here on CVO forum and these engines are built to order at the moment far as I know. We offer a great price on them and we can rent you the jig to drill your own external oil lines and sell you the kit to install the external lines or you can have us machine the lines internally but this process increases prices substantially because the engine must be taken apart and the cases have to be split to do this machine work properly. The new granite motor we ordered this morning will not be available and ready to ship to is from S&S until July 7 so that should be good info for you guys considering these motors. I run one in my own bike and although I don't make as much money selling crate motors as I do selling complete builds, I believe the quality, the power these motors make and the warranty that comes with these motors serve the customer best for their hard earned money and my shop thrives on giving customers top notch dyno tunes and engines that stand up to the standards you expect when you she'll out the money it takes to play with the big boys without breaking things. These S&S motors are just a fantastic engine from the bottom end up. Their oil pumps move nearly 32 psi on a hot motor running Redline 20-60 synthetic oil in mine at idle. I don't think those motors will have the lifter problems we are seeing or any other problems for that matter because they are so beefed up. The new cases they come in (T2) are cast and machined to accept the Timken crank bearings, their is no modification needed to install the Timken as their were with the SE cases and if you do have a problem, my experience is S&S comes running to help, there's no hassle like the MoCo tends to do. I've seen S&S take care of problems on things that had expired the warranty so you can sleep well at night after a long days ride of you heard a knock or something that would worry you if you were still riding a factory MoCo warranty. Sorry for the long post, I'm just excited about these motors, I run one in my own bike for about 6000 miles now and it impresses me every time I ride it even on just crate form. My warranty is now over so the heads will probably go to John Sachs when the snow flies and we'll crank up the compression to probably around 11.25:1 and burn pump gas at sea level with not hint of a ping. Bottom line, these motors are bad ass bang for the buck and the run very quiet. All I hear on mine with a wrath 3" baffle pipe is the exhaust and when it gets hot, I hear the roller rockers at bit. The valve train with the 640's sound exceptionally quiet. I ride with a grid I build a 120R for and changed the valve springs to a lighter PAC beehive, Feuling race series 120 wall adjustable pushorods and a great set of lifters and his bike sound like a thrashing machine compared to my S&S.
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Re: 145"ers from S&S No More
« Reply #10 on: June 24, 2014, 06:38:42 PM »

Does taking it apart to do the oil lines mess with the warranty?
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Re: 145"ers from S&S No More
« Reply #11 on: June 26, 2014, 06:55:12 AM »

I might be able to grab 1 more, thru their Speed Center, as parts are still available.
Waiting to hear back from them.
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Re: 145"ers from S&S No More
« Reply #12 on: June 26, 2014, 09:10:39 AM »

My rep says if you pull the motor down and run the lines internally yourself, it voids warranty. Best way to go keeps warranty, much easier and less headache to use their jig to run external lines.
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Re: 145"ers from S&S No More
« Reply #13 on: June 26, 2014, 10:41:54 AM »

My rep says if you pull the motor down and run the lines internally yourself, it voids warranty. Best way to go keeps warranty, much easier and less headache to use their jig to run external lines.

James, I guess there is no way to get S&S to drill prior to the build?
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Re: 145"ers from S&S No More
« Reply #14 on: June 26, 2014, 12:09:41 PM »

James, I guess there is no way to get S&S to drill prior to the build?

I believe upon a Special Order Request, that could happen.
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