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[cowboy7123]

The first time it pissed all over was right after they replaced the Fill neck, they said there was a lose connection, I called their BS on that one.
Then she leak somewhere and not sure where. their fix was the tech didn't service it correctly ( 1200 miles or so )
And now she leaked all over my floor. ( 1800 Miles )

I'm going to give them one more try to fix the bike before I do the lemon law action.

[grc]

The first time it pissed all over was right after they replaced the Fill neck, they said there was a lose connection, I called their BS on that one.
Then she leak somewhere and not sure where. their fix was the tech didn't service it correctly ( 1200 miles or so )
And now she leaked all over my floor. ( 1800 Miles )

I'm going to give them one more try to fix the bike before I do the lemon law action.

Contact H-D Customer Service, not just the dealer.  It may not get the bike fixed properly, but I'm pretty sure most lemon laws require giving the actual manufacturer the opportunity to intervene.

Jerry

[FLHTCUSE7]

http://www.njconsumeraffairs.gov/ocp/lembroc.pdf

[mjb765]

Do you qualify for BOTH??

A used motor vehicle is presumed to be a lemon if:
● there have been at least three (3) repair attempts on the same covered item, AND/OR
● the vehicle has been out of service for a total of twenty (20) cumulative calendar days for a single problem or a series of problems with a covered item while the dealer is attempting to fix it.

[cowboy7123]

Looks like my next step is sending a letter to the manufacture. Thanks for the link Rotarywing! I love this bike but I don't like having to look under the bike every time I stop to see if it leaked all over. Water cooled engines is not new concept. For the amount that we paid for these bike, they should be flawless.

[cowboy7123]

UPDATE on my leak: My dealer contacted the regional Harley rep and they figured out the problem for now or think that have...... The problem is with the Thermostat leaking. Harley decided to come out with a new one without telling everyone. The bad stats have GREEN DOT somewhere on them, the new stats have a ORANGE DOT on them.

[cowboy7123]

So far no new leaks after they replaced the part

[06fatdaddy]

Ok received my bike back for the same reason, three thermostat housings replaced.
Last one was done a week ago everything seemed ok, until tonight went for a ride came home started cleaning the bike for a ride for tomorrow. Just for chits and giggles i checked the coolant tank and surprise the tank is empty.
I did check the tank when i received the bike back from the dealer last week and it was full then.
Now what??? HELP

[grc]

Ok received my bike back for the same reason, three thermostat housings replaced.
Last one was done a week ago everything seemed ok, until tonight went for a ride came home started cleaning the bike for a ride for tomorrow. Just for chits and giggles i checked the coolant tank and surprise the tank is empty.
I did check the tank when i received the bike back from the dealer last week and it was full then.
Now what??? HELP

Has there been any sign of a leak since you got it back?  Any sign of fluid anywhere on the bike itself, like at the heads?  If there is no sign of external leakage, and there should be if you really lost a full quart of coolant, I'd start wondering if they purged the air out of the system after the last repair.

Since the current production customers don't seem to be having all these problems that the early production buyers have had, obviously Harley has made several changes in production that have solved the problem, at least for now.  So it shouldn't be that difficult for them to just duplicate the same thing by replacing all the parts that have been improved or changed on current production bikes.  If they do that, and the dealership doesn't screw anything up when performing the work, it shouldn't be that difficult to get this problem behind you.  In the overall scheme of things, this is a very simple cooling system and it shouldn't be that hard to get it right.

Have you contacted H-D directly about these multiple failures, or just the dealership?  If you haven't contacted H-D, perhaps you should do so.

Jerry

[06fatdaddy]

The first time i seen a few drops from the thermostat chrome cover, the thermostat was replaced that was number 1. Number 2 was a day later same drops replace the thermostat again. Number 3 came as we were in a group of riders and the person behind me said he smelled antifreeze i pulled the cover off to see how the bottle looked and it was empty. Called the dealer and they said ride it home and they picked the bike up the next day and they again replaced the thermostat with the orange dot on it. With all this no leakage at the heads. So now tonight just checked the bottle before tomorrows trip bingo bottle is dry and nothing is wet on the bike. Each time the dealer picked the bike up and returned the bike back to me they put between 5 to 15 mikes on it, so i would hope the air would of been out.
I didn't want to call HD yet. The dealer has been good to me. But maybe i need to do something since this is getting to be to much and can't do any long road trips fear i might get stranded.
This bike is an early production bike.

[grc]

You need to stop worrying about hurting the feelings of the folks at the dealership and start looking out for yourself and your rights.  Obviously this dealership ISN'T being all that good to you if they've had three chances to fix this problem and haven't accomplished anything yet.  If all they have done is replace the thermostat three times, it's not hard to understand why you still have a problem.  The early bikes had several other things wrong with them besides the thermostats.  Do yourself a favor and either contact H-D, or find another dealership to fix the bike.

Jerry

[serg18]

I went through the lemon law thing with an 09 SE RG.  The dealer was trying to fix everything and the MOCO did nothing until I hired a lawyer.  Within 1 week of the lawyer sending the letter, HD sent out the regional rep with a check to buy my MC back and the dealer and I negotiated on a new MC.  I tried multiple times to resolve it before the lawyer to save everyone the money and aggravation but moco wanted no part in that.  In the end, that is why we have lawyers I guess.  good luck.

[06fatdaddy]

I will contact the MOCO today.Wonder how long these motors can run without any coolant.
This would be my second time i have checked the level after a ride and it was empty.
Thank you for all the advice.

Scott

[06fatdaddy]

Here is the latest. Called the MOCO received a reference number, called dealer and gave the service manager the number. The dealer couldn't find any leaks, so now they added dye to the antifreeze and still can't find any leaks. Did a pressure test I'm losing 1 pound per minute. So now the fun begins start taking the bike apart. Wondering if anyone else had this problem..

[06fatdaddy]

Update... After all the testing and etc the MOCO is sending a new motor.