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[willyB]

Caught mine just in time at 22,000 miles. New GMR 577's and New S & S Lifters thanks to hrdtail78.

[willyB]

Here's the cam.

By the way, I'm sure you've seen me post this before but I really want people to see the problem and change out the lifters, at least, before they go KaBoom.

[FlaHeatWave]

My Dealer has never charged me for any fluids required during any Warranty or ESP work.

If there is metal in the oil, the motor should be thoroughly cleaned, otherwise it will come back apart soon... Depending on the remaining ESP you might not care

An easy check is to pull the Crank Position Sensor (one allen head bolt, the O-ring can be reused) if the CPS has any metal at all on it = Doom

[rottenroger]

Well it looks like I joined the ranks with lifter problems. I took mine in for an early 30k checkup because I was hearing a noise it doesn't normally make. I lost a lifter on one of my intake valves.
It wasted the cam and the oil pump. So they are going to flush everything install new cams (stock), different lifters none stock, upgraded cam plate with new oil pump. I have only 28k on the bike so the shop foreman it talking to Harley to see if they will help out. No warranty and no ESP.... can you say  ka ching. Anyway they are pulling the parts together and I should get the bike back next week. Installing new Metzeler ME 880 front and back new Lyndall rotors and pads up front and new pads in the back. may be I'll be good for few more 1000 miles

[GMR-PERFORMANCE]

 Sorry to hear the issue's . HD  lifter is a poor quality item its that simple.

[artanner1]

Metal shavings in oil pan from lifter failure

[HILLSIDECYCLE.COM]

Seen it all too many times.

[GMR-PERFORMANCE]

As you can see how important it is to remove pan and clean it. As well look above ( IE bottom side of trans case) the powder coat has a great way of trapping small particles of metal. Taking the time to thoroughly clean this entire area is very important.

[grc]

After looking at how much debris winds up in the oil pan (which means it had to make its way from the other areas of the engine into the sump and through the scavenge side of the oil pump before it gets to the pan), just think how much similar debris is stuck to the inner surfaces of all those other castings as well as in the various bearings.  The only way, IMHO, to properly handle such failures is to strip the entire engine and clean and inspect everything.  Any bearing that is even slightly suspect should be changed.  But how often do you suppose the MoCo or the ESP folks really do this, versus just replacing a few obviously damaged parts and buttoning it up, hoping it lasts just long enough to get you out of warranty or to have the ESP expire?

Jerry

[GMR-PERFORMANCE]

After looking at how much debris winds up in the oil pan (which means it had to make its way from the other areas of the engine into the sump and through the scavenge side of the oil pump before it gets to the pan), just think how much similar debris is stuck to the inner surfaces of all those other castings as well as in the various bearings.  The only way, IMHO, to properly handle such failures is to strip the entire engine and clean and inspect everything.  Any bearing that is even slightly suspect should be changed.  But how often do you suppose the MoCo or the ESP folks really do this, versus just replacing a few obviously damaged parts and buttoning it up, hoping it lasts just long enough to get you out of warranty or to have the ESP expire?

Jerry

Well ESP contracts vary but they always look to do as little as they can. I agree its a fix however if they wont step up you can explain to the end user that its extra to go the rest of the way or.. several oil changes int he next 500 miles. 

[RayG]

Well you heard it from the experts on splitting the cases and doing a thorough cleaning.  If they handed me the bike back without getting all the debris out it would be very hard to even think of taking a long trip.  There are enough issues with out having a ticking bomb that will most likely last until the warranty is up.  Actually I really wouldn't worry about my next trip because I would not even consider taking it home unless it was done right.  I know what I would do, but that is just me, others might handle it differently. 

[DrSpencer]

Is this lifter issue specific to 110 inch engines only?

Is a 2011 103" w/SE255's immune from this problem?

Thanks

[SBB]

Is this lifter issue specific to 110 inch engines only?No

Is a 2011 103" w/SE255's immune from this problem? No

Thanks

SBB

[Banana man]

My 9 year old 103 had the problem and the newer ones have the same problem so I don't think any of them are Immune from that. IMO better to just go in and change them before anything happens that would cause more damage in the future.

[HILLSIDECYCLE.COM]

You'd think that HD's engineering would be embarrassed as to these rampant issues?
Maybe it doesn't matter?
Scott