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Re: Garmin Zumo or 2820 ?
« Reply #15 on: February 22, 2007, 04:03:09 PM »

Like you said, you can always add memory.  I haven't found a situation where I ran out of memory for a planned trip.  Even when I travelled to Sturgis on my old Quest, I still had memory left.  Also, as for the detail, I find it has plenty of detail for me.  Like you, my old eyes sure appreciate having a screen that is easy to see.
Thanks. One other question (may not be the last one ;D). Is there any feature you'd like to have on the Zumo that you had on your other GPS or a feature that neither of them have you'd like to add on the Zumo?


Also would like to hear from some of you owners of the 2820. Tell me what you like best about that model, would you upgrade to a Zumo, why, why not?

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Re: Garmin Zumo or 2820 ?
« Reply #16 on: February 22, 2007, 05:06:22 PM »

Gary,  If you go to the Garmin site here:  http://www.garmin.com/products/comparison.jsp   It will give you a side by side comparison of the two unit's features.

Two things jump out at me immediately, and I would appreciate feedback from other members who know the difference in the first one...The 2820 comes with America Autoroute and the Zumo comes with America Lite Routable.  I don't know what the difference is, but generally "lite" versions of anything don't have as much substance... ;)  The other thing is there are slightly more pixels on the 2820 for a finer display.  The 2820 has Autodimming on the backlight...I know mine goes to a black background automatically at night...do the Zumo's do this?  2820 holds a bit more routing information.

I'd like to know..particularly about the Lite vs not-lite thing..

Also Gary...you asked for input from 2820 owners.  I'm one, but have not had anything else to compare it to.  I have no trouble seeing my unit, other than when the sunlight is directly over my shoulder and shining at a certain angle on the face of the unit.  I can still see it, it's just washed out a bit, and I can usually block the sunlight with my helmet, hand, shoulder, etc.  I have no problems operating any of the buttons or on-screen functions with or without gloves on, but I wear gloves 98% of the time. The numbers/letters are plenty large, and I have no problems seeing them...I wear progressive bifocals ALL the time.  I like the more horizontal profile of the 2820, and the rectangular screen.  Have never seen or touched a Zumo, so it may be the best thing since pajamas with feet in them, but I can't comment, and I'm still learning the functions of the 2820.  It has served me well over 10K miles though, so I'm a happy camper so far.  I really, really like the MP3 function, and as the technology catches up, I think I will like the Bluetooth as well...right now, I just pair it to my phone so I'll know if someone's trying to call...if I want to talk with them, I'll pull over, or do so at the next gas stop.  It is nice to be able to tell when someone is attempting to reach you though.
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Re: Garmin Zumo or 2820 ?
« Reply #17 on: February 22, 2007, 05:32:08 PM »

Two questions:

Where can I find the HD Dealer information to load into my Zumo?  What does intail to insert it or upload it?

In regards to the Zumo one thing I really like about it and I don't know how this effects others, but living in Florida the rains that can come upon you in a seconds notice and the fact that the Zumo is water proof / water resistent and can sit in a puddle for up to 30 minutes and be ok was a huge plus for me.   I am not sure if the 2820 does it or not.  The other thing I really like about the Zumo is how well you can view it in the daytime.   I actually had to push mine towards the fairing because it is just so bright at night.   My Zumo doubles as a BlueTooth for my truck as handsfree was not available for it when I purchased it.  Memory is cheap so I was not concerned with the 500 vs the 2000 waypoints.   Most of the trips I will be doing will be prelaid out routes so it should not be an issue for me.

All in all I am really happy with the Zumo and would recommend it.

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Re: Garmin Zumo or 2820 ?
« Reply #18 on: February 22, 2007, 05:34:21 PM »

Gary,  If you go to the Garmin site here:  http://www.garmin.com/products/comparison.jsp   It will give you a side by side comparison of the two unit's features.

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Terry,
Thanks that was most helpful. In addition to the questions you had in regards to the "Lite" thing, and the dimming difference Can somebody explain the difference between Automatic Dimming and Multi-level?

I also noticed a significant difference in Number of Waypoints. 2820 has 2000 and Zumo 500. What are waypoints and how can that affect the ability of the unit?

In my investigation into these units I've also seen where you can get "shades" to put on them which I would assume this is to keep the glare off. Has anybody used one of these and would it help when sun was directly behind you.

I do appreciate all the replies. :2vrolijk_21:

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Re: Garmin Zumo or 2820 ?
« Reply #19 on: February 22, 2007, 06:20:00 PM »

Two questions:

Where can I find the HD Dealer information to load into my Zumo?  What does intail to insert it or upload it?

In regards to the Zumo one thing I really like about it and I don't know how this effects others, but living in Florida the rains that can come upon you in a seconds notice and the fact that the Zumo is water proof / water resistent and can sit in a puddle for up to 30 minutes and be ok was a huge plus for me.   I am not sure if the 2820 does it or not.  The other thing I really like about the Zumo is how well you can view it in the daytime.   I actually had to push mine towards the fairing because it is just so bright at night.   My Zumo doubles as a BlueTooth for my truck as handsfree was not available for it when I purchased it.  Memory is cheap so I was not concerned with the 500 vs the 2000 waypoints.   Most of the trips I will be doing will be prelaid out routes so it should not be an issue for me.

All in all I am really happy with the Zumo and would recommend it.

-harry




Harry, this will only be anecdotal for the 2820 as it and the 2620 meet the same spec for weather resistance.  So, FWIW, I've had the 2620 in steady showers for as long as 9 hours one day.  Shorter periods lots of others.  Also had it out (and left turned on because I bailed) in one sudden high wind and torrential rainshower as a real bad thundercell moved over head.  It's never missed a beat due to inclement weather.  Only issue with it and the outside environment is because the 2620 has a hard drive in it.  It doesn't like to be turned when it's much below 30 degrees or so.
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Re: Garmin Zumo or 2820 ?
« Reply #20 on: February 22, 2007, 06:26:27 PM »

Terry,
Thanks that was most helpful. In addition to the questions you had in regards to the "Lite" thing, and the dimming difference Can somebody explain the difference between Automatic Dimming and Multi-level?

I also noticed a significant difference in Number of Waypoints. 2820 has 2000 and Zumo 500. What are waypoints and how can that affect the ability of the unit?

In my investigation into these units I've also seen where you can get "shades" to put on them which I would assume this is to keep the glare off. Has anybody used one of these and would it help when sun was directly behind you.

I do appreciate all the replies. :2vrolijk_21:

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Gary...Having not had one in hand, I'm not 100% certain, but I would assume that the Multi-Level means it is manually adjusted for brightness of display.  The Zumo may also have a "night time" mode like the 2820 with a black background...it switches itself to that mode automatically, which is waht I think they mean by autodimming.  What this does for me on the 2820 is really make the roads "pop" from the background when you need them to most.  I don't normally ride at night, but the couple of times I've been caught (riding to Tampa, got caught in a traffic jam, had to detour, and I would have been in a world of hurt without the GPS...rode 3 hours on unfamiliar roads in the cold and dark), this has really been a nice feature.  The 2820 is rated to be equally waterproof to the Zumo, so that's out of the equation for you, Gary.  

The glare covers for the units, while functional, look like a monkey's ass sewn up with a grapevine, IMO, so I don't think you're going to want one of those hanging off your scooter, if I know you at all.  ;)

Waypoints...here's a definition/explanation which may either clarify or make it more cloudy...

Waypoints and GPS
GPS systems are increasingly used to create and use waypoints in navigation of all kinds. A typical GPS receiver can locate a waypoint with an accuracy of three metres or better when used with land-based assisting technologies such as the Wide Area Augmentation System (WAAS). Waypoints can also be marked on a computer mapping program and uploaded to the GPS receiver, marked on the receiver's own internal map, or entered manually on the device as a pair of coordinates.

If the GPS receiver has track-logging capabilities, one can also define waypoints after the fact from where one has been. For example, marine GPS receivers often have a “man overboard” function, which instantly creates a waypoint in the receiver for the boat's position when enabled and then begins displaying the distance and course back to that position.

In GPS navigation, a “route” is usually defined as a series of one or more waypoints. To follow such a route, the GPS user navigates to the nearest waypoint, then to the next one in turn until the destination is reached. Most receivers have the ability to compute a great circle route towards a waypoint, enabling them to find the shortest route even over long distances, although waypoints are often so closely spaced that this isn't a factor.

Many GPS receivers, both military and civilian, now offer integrated cartographic databases (also known as base maps), allowing users to locate a point on a map and define it as a waypoint. Some GPS systems intended for automobile navigation can generate a suggested driving route between two waypoints, based on the cartographic database. As one drives along the route, the system indicates the driver's current location and gives advance notice of upcoming turns. The best of these systems can take into account traffic restrictions such as one-way streets and intersections where left or right turns are prohibited when computing the suggested driving route.

Most GPS receivers allow the user to assign a name to each waypoint. Many models also let the user select a symbol to identify the waypoint on a graphical map display from a built-in library of icons. These include standard map symbols for marine navigation aids such as buoys, marinas and anchorages, as well as such land-based symbols as churches, bridges, shopping centers, parks, and tunnels.

GPS receivers used in air or marine navigation may contain large databases of standard, named waypoints that can be used to coordinate navigation with other aircraft or ships in the area. Some receivers are integrated into autopilots or flight management systems that will pilot an aircraft or ship along a planned route without human intervention. The routing information for the flight plans used in modern aviation often consists of a list of the waypoints that the flight will follow. Most waypoints used by aviation GPS receivers correlate with waypoints established on charts and other navigational documentation.
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Re: Garmin Zumo or 2820 ?
« Reply #21 on: February 22, 2007, 06:41:05 PM »

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Waypoints...here's a definition/explanation which may either clarify or make it more cloudy...

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Terry,
Thanks again your information is most helpful. From your explanation I have a better understanding of waypoints. I can't see where in normal use I would need more then 500 (even on a cross country trip), and if more were needed I guess I could always split the trip up using a flash card. After you load a map/trip up w/all the waypoints you want and have returned home you can either d/l the trip to some other media or just delete it freeing up those waypoints, correct?

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Re: Garmin Zumo or 2820 ?
« Reply #22 on: February 22, 2007, 07:04:49 PM »

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Two things jump out at me immediately, and I would appreciate feedback from other members who know the difference in the first one...The 2820 comes with America Autoroute and the Zumo comes with America Lite Routable.  I don't know what the difference is, but generally "lite" versions of anything don't have as much substance... ;)  .....
This is how Garmin explains the difference between the two...

Americas Lite Routable Basemap:
 
This basemap comes factory installed with the GPSMAP 96, GPSMAP 96C, StreetPilot c320, StreetPilot c330, StreetPilot c340, StreetPilot i2, StreetPilot i3, and StreetPilot i5.

Garmin mapping units come with built-in, permanent basemaps that cannot be altered. These basemaps come in a variety of global designations (i.e., Atlantic basemap). Please see your local dealer when purchasing a Garmin mapping unit to ensure that you are purchasing one with a basemap that's appropriate for your location and needs. Factory-installed basemaps cannot be altered.

The Americas LiteRoutable Basemap v3 includes the United States, Canada, Mexico, and Central and South America, and covers an area from W180 to W30 Longitude, S60 to N75 Latitude. It includes a high-level worldwide map with borders and major cities.

Standard map coverage includes:
1. Oceans, rivers, and lakes (greater than 30 sq. miles)
2. Principal cities and some smaller cities and towns
3. Major interstates and principal highways
4. Political boundaries (state and international borders)
5. Major Airports

A. United States—In addition to the standard map coverage, it also includes:
1. Lakes greater than 5 square miles

B. Canada—In addition to the standard map coverage, it also includes:
1. Lakes greater than 5 square miles (Southern Canada)
2. Lakes greater than 10 square miles (Central - Northern Canada)

C. Mexico, Central and South America
1. Standard Map Coverage


Americas Autoroute Basemap:
 
This basemap comes factory installed with the BMW Motorcycles Navigator, StreetPilot III, StreetPilot 2610, StreetPilot 2620, StreetPilot 2650, StreetPilot 2660, StreetPilot 2720, StreetPilot 7200, StreetPilot 7500, GPS V, GPSMAP 196, GPSMAP 276C, GPSMAP 376C, GPSMAP 396, GPSMAP 296, GPSMAP 76C, GPSMAP 76CS, Quest, and Quest 2.

Garmin mapping units come with built-in, permanent basemaps that cannot be altered. These basemaps come in a variety of global designations (i.e., Atlantic basemap). Please see your local dealer when purchasing a Garmin mapping unit to ensure that you are purchasing one with a basemap that's appropriate for your location and needs. Factory-installed basemaps cannot be altered.

The Americas Routable basemap includes the United States, Alaska, Canada, Mexico, and Central and South America, and covers an area from W180 to W30 Longitude, S60 to N72 Latitude. Also included is a high-level worldwide map with political boundaries and major cities.

Standard map coverage includes:
1. Oceans, rivers, and lakes (greater than 30 sq. miles)
2. Principal cities and a small amount of smaller cities and towns
3. Major interstates and principal highways
4. Political boundaries (state and international borders)
5. Railroads
6. Major Airports

A. United States—In addition to the standard map coverage, it also includes:
1. Small lakes, major streams, and rivers
2. Principal urban areas (including Alaska and Hawaii)
3. National- and State-level roads
4. Many local roads in or near urban areas
5. More detailed coastline
6. Airports
7. A database of exits for the Federal Interstate highway system. This includes many businesses within about ¼ mile of the exit, including: restaurants, diesel/gas, hotels/lodging, overnight RV parking, dumps, campgrounds, truckstops, medical facilities, shopping and outlet malls, ATMs, and many more attractions.
8. Tide stations

B. Alaska—In addition to the standard map coverage, it also includes:
1. National- and State-level roads, plus some local roads in or near urban areas
2. Lakes greater than 5 square miles
3. Small cities and towns
4. Tide stations

C. Canada—In addition to the standard map coverage, it also includes:
1. Lakes greater than 5 square miles (Southern Canada)
2. Lakes greater than 10 square miles (Central Canada)

D. Mexico, Central and South America
1. Standard Map Coverage


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Re: Garmin Zumo or 2820 ?
« Reply #23 on: February 22, 2007, 08:32:53 PM »

This is how Garmin explains the difference between the two...

Americas Lite Routable Basemap:
 
This basemap comes factory installed with the GPSMAP 96, GPSMAP 96C, StreetPilot c320, StreetPilot c330, StreetPilot c340, StreetPilot i2, StreetPilot i3, and StreetPilot i5.

Garmin mapping units come with built-in, permanent basemaps that cannot be altered. These basemaps come in a variety of global designations (i.e., Atlantic basemap). Please see your local dealer when purchasing a Garmin mapping unit to ensure that you are purchasing one with a basemap that's appropriate for your location and needs. Factory-installed basemaps cannot be altered.

The Americas LiteRoutable Basemap v3 includes the United States, Canada, Mexico, and Central and South America, and covers an area from W180 to W30 Longitude, S60 to N75 Latitude. It includes a high-level worldwide map with borders and major cities.

Standard map coverage includes:
1. Oceans, rivers, and lakes (greater than 30 sq. miles)
2. Principal cities and some smaller cities and towns
3. Major interstates and principal highways
4. Political boundaries (state and international borders)
5. Major Airports

A. United States—In addition to the standard map coverage, it also includes:
1. Lakes greater than 5 square miles

B. Canada—In addition to the standard map coverage, it also includes:
1. Lakes greater than 5 square miles (Southern Canada)
2. Lakes greater than 10 square miles (Central - Northern Canada)

C. Mexico, Central and South America
1. Standard Map Coverage


Americas Autoroute Basemap:
 
This basemap comes factory installed with the BMW Motorcycles Navigator, StreetPilot III, StreetPilot 2610, StreetPilot 2620, StreetPilot 2650, StreetPilot 2660, StreetPilot 2720, StreetPilot 7200, StreetPilot 7500, GPS V, GPSMAP 196, GPSMAP 276C, GPSMAP 376C, GPSMAP 396, GPSMAP 296, GPSMAP 76C, GPSMAP 76CS, Quest, and Quest 2.

Garmin mapping units come with built-in, permanent basemaps that cannot be altered. These basemaps come in a variety of global designations (i.e., Atlantic basemap). Please see your local dealer when purchasing a Garmin mapping unit to ensure that you are purchasing one with a basemap that's appropriate for your location and needs. Factory-installed basemaps cannot be altered.

The Americas Routable basemap includes the United States, Alaska, Canada, Mexico, and Central and South America, and covers an area from W180 to W30 Longitude, S60 to N72 Latitude. Also included is a high-level worldwide map with political boundaries and major cities.

Standard map coverage includes:
1. Oceans, rivers, and lakes (greater than 30 sq. miles)
2. Principal cities and a small amount of smaller cities and towns
3. Major interstates and principal highways
4. Political boundaries (state and international borders)
5. Railroads
6. Major Airports

A. United States—In addition to the standard map coverage, it also includes:
1. Small lakes, major streams, and rivers
2. Principal urban areas (including Alaska and Hawaii)
3. National- and State-level roads
4. Many local roads in or near urban areas
5. More detailed coastline
6. Airports
7. A database of exits for the Federal Interstate highway system. This includes many businesses within about ¼ mile of the exit, including: restaurants, diesel/gas, hotels/lodging, overnight RV parking, dumps, campgrounds, truckstops, medical facilities, shopping and outlet malls, ATMs, and many more attractions.
8. Tide stations

B. Alaska—In addition to the standard map coverage, it also includes:
1. National- and State-level roads, plus some local roads in or near urban areas
2. Lakes greater than 5 square miles
3. Small cities and towns
4. Tide stations

C. Canada—In addition to the standard map coverage, it also includes:
1. Lakes greater than 5 square miles (Southern Canada)
2. Lakes greater than 10 square miles (Central Canada)

D. Mexico, Central and South America
1. Standard Map Coverage


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Gary...for me, that would make my decision.  I have used that function several times on trips (the exit information).  But that's just me...
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Re: Garmin Zumo or 2820 ?
« Reply #24 on: February 22, 2007, 08:38:38 PM »

Gary...for me, that would make my decision.  I have used that function several times on trips (the exit information).  But that's just me...
Yea it has me leaning more to the 2820 now. I'm just wondering especially about this feature - A database of exits for the Federal Interstate highway system. This includes many businesses within about ¼ mile of the exit, including: restaurants, diesel/gas, hotels/lodging, overnight RV parking, dumps, campgrounds, truckstops, medical facilities, shopping and outlet malls, ATMs, and many more attractions. How the Zumo would find these things as you're travelling along unknown areas. :confused5:

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Re: Garmin Zumo or 2820 ?
« Reply #25 on: February 22, 2007, 08:41:22 PM »

Gary...for me, that would make my decision.  I have used that function several times on trips (the exit information).  But that's just me...

TC, I only noticed this thread for the first time earlier today.  Then didn't have time to type much.  Will share at least a little bit now. 

You've seen that 2620 on my bike.  It's similar to yours.  I like the display screen on yours better than mine but like the way software works better on the 26XX than on the 28XX.  So if it was just a choice of GPS functions alone it'd be a toss up.  With the other bells and whistles (music player and bluetooth), however, yours definitely comes out ahead.  Comparing that family of units against the Zumo also seemed a bit of a toss up.

I had a a chance to play with a Zumo for three or four hours one afternoon in a vehicle.  The 28XX seeems to give more of its display area to the map display itself (at least for what I could figure out at the time).  But it wasn't a huge difference.  Both displays were good though (I think the 28XX is just a tiny bit sharper).  There were minor and subtle comparative differences between the two but little that one could do that the other could not if you fiddled with it enough.  So it really was a bit of a toss up.

Until I stumbled into all the data differences you highlighted above.  That was significant.  Lots more information readily available.  And information that could and likely would be regularly used too.  After seeing that I put the Zumo back on the dash and stopped playing with it.  The choice got pretty easy after that.
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Re: Garmin Zumo or 2820 ?
« Reply #26 on: February 22, 2007, 09:04:31 PM »

Yea it has me leaning more to the 2820 now. I'm just wondering especially about this feature - A database of exits for the Federal Interstate highway system. This includes many businesses within about ¼ mile of the exit, including: restaurants, diesel/gas, hotels/lodging, overnight RV parking, dumps, campgrounds, truckstops, medical facilities, shopping and outlet malls, ATMs, and many more attractions. How the Zumo would find these things as you're travelling along unknown areas. :confused5:

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Don't know, Gary...but, if the CD software that comes with the Zumo is like mine, when you lay out a route in the software, then load to the unit, these things might be loaded as POI's (points of interest).  Just as an example of how I used this feature (I assume it's preloaded on my basemap, from the description you provided of the differences), coming back from Tampa, we were on a Toll Road in Florida with limited access, etc, and I was running low on fuel...so, I pulled up nearest gas stations while going down the road...the unit directed me to several gas stations with arrows beside them showing behind me, off to the side, and ahead...also distance to each gas station.  This way, I was able to determine when I approached an unfamiliar exit, exactly how far off the toll road the station was.  I put 5 gallons in that time... :nervous:

Maybe the Zumo can do this too?  Somebody chime in here...does the Zumo have these POI's preloaded in the basemap?  To me, that's a pretty big deal if it doesn't...
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Re: Garmin Zumo or 2820 ?
« Reply #27 on: February 22, 2007, 09:09:24 PM »

TC, I only noticed this thread for the first time earlier today.  Then didn't have time to type much.  Will share at least a little bit now. 

You've seen that 2620 on my bike.  It's similar to yours.  I like the display screen on yours better than mine but like the way software works better on the 26XX than on the 28XX.  So if it was just a choice of GPS functions alone it'd be a toss up.  With the other bells and whistles (music player and bluetooth), however, yours definitely comes out ahead.  Comparing that family of units against the Zumo also seemed a bit of a toss up.

I had a a chance to play with a Zumo for three or four hours one afternoon in a vehicle.  The 28XX seeems to give more of its display area to the map display itself (at least for what I could figure out at the time).  But it wasn't a huge difference.  Both displays were good though (I think the 28XX is just a tiny bit sharper).  There were minor and subtle comparative differences between the two but little that one could do that the other could not if you fiddled with it enough.  So it really was a bit of a toss up.

Until I stumbled into all the data differences you highlighted above.  That was significant.  Lots more information readily available.  And information that could and likely would be regularly used too.  After seeing that I put the Zumo back on the dash and stopped playing with it.  The choice got pretty easy after that.

Don, if you've seen that difference too, that seals it for me.  Those are valuable functions in my book.  The screen on the 2820 is a bit sharper, as the res numbers are a bit higher...not real significant, but some.  Plus, I enjoy being able to see more of the map area surrounding my route, which the wider display provides.  Not a hell of a lot, but again, some...
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Re: Garmin Zumo or 2820 ?
« Reply #28 on: February 22, 2007, 09:16:29 PM »

Don't know, Gary...but, if the CD software that comes with the Zumo is like mine, when you lay out a route in the software, then load to the unit, these things might be loaded as POI's (points of interest).  Just as an example of how I used this feature (I assume it's preloaded on my basemap, from the description you provided of the differences), coming back from Tampa, we were on a Toll Road in Florida with limited access, etc, and I was running low on fuel...so, I pulled up nearest gas stations while going down the road...the unit directed me to several gas stations with arrows beside them showing behind me, off to the side, and ahead...also distance to each gas station.  This way, I was able to determine when I approached an unfamiliar exit, exactly how far off the toll road the station was.  I put 5 gallons in that time... :nervous:

Maybe the Zumo can do this too?  Somebody chime in here...does the Zumo have these POI's preloaded in the basemap?  To me, that's a pretty big deal if it doesn't...


Just got the 550 today. It does have POI's. Lists the name, address, distance, and direction.

Has food, fuel, banks, lodging, shopping, parking, entertainment,recreation, attractions, community, hospitals,transit and auto services.

To me it is almost as easy to use as the Furuno Nav Net that is on the boat. The nav net is the easiest unit in the world to operate.
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Re: Garmin Zumo or 2820 ?
« Reply #29 on: February 22, 2007, 09:38:25 PM »

Don, if you've seen that difference too, that seals it for me.  Those are valuable functions in my book.  The screen on the 2820 is a bit sharper, as the res numbers are a bit higher...not real significant, but some.  Plus, I enjoy being able to see more of the map area surrounding my route, which the wider display provides.  Not a hell of a lot, but again, some...

That was my impression too TC.  Not huge differences.  But still differences to be gained. 

The only thing I couldn't know that afternoon playing with the Zumo is if the lack of information might be subject to use only as a standalone device.  By that I mean I had no way of knowing if some of what wasn't there was added if you downloaded a route from the PC.

Even with the difference it wasn't as if the Zumo didn't offer some local or locale information.  It just didn't offer nearly as much.  It will still point you at a gas station, for example, and a bit of other stuff.  The units like ours just had more data onboard all the time to offer up though.

It was real obvious to see that if I'd never played with a 26XX/27XX/28XX that I'd never have missed any of it when using the Zumo.  The Zumo seems to do about anything you think you might want while you're using it.  It was only because I was able to make the (all but) side by side comparison that I could see the differences.  You're not getting hurt either way.  Based on the limited experience with both families of units if I had to upgrade today though I'd get a 28XX.  Though I wouldn't cry a bit if someone told me I could only have a Zumo instead.  They're both nice units.
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