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Re: Updated ESP pricing
« Reply #15 on: November 17, 2014, 10:25:07 AM »

I guess they had to get me somewhere... I paid 2500.00 for the 2+5 (tires included) on the 2014 RK CVO... Orlando, FL
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Re: Updated ESP pricing
« Reply #16 on: November 17, 2014, 10:37:34 AM »

Saw a post where Kutter HD was now selling a different ESP that looks to be similar to the one that been around a while.  Think this new one is by Cornerstone that does a lot of other vehicle warrantees.  Its quite a bit lower priced than the ones sold by HD dealers so will be interesting to see how it works out.
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Re: Updated ESP pricing
« Reply #17 on: November 17, 2014, 10:53:50 AM »

Saw a post where Kutter HD was now selling a different ESP that looks to be similar to the one that been around a while.  Think this new one is by Cornerstone that does a lot of other vehicle warrantees.  Its quite a bit lower priced than the ones sold by HD dealers so will be interesting to see how it works out.
Wonder how many Harley dealers (if any) will accept the Cornerstone ESP as payment.  Not a motorcycle related event but similar circumstances - friend had a Ford with third party ESP and dealer refused to honor it.  Said he did not deal with the ESP company and did not want to deal with getting authorization for repair, payment, etc.  Friend had to pay up front and then file claim with his ESP.  I'm thinking that many dealers will not be inclined to deal with an ESP other than Harley's.  Be interesting to see how this shakes out when repairs are needed.
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Re: Updated ESP pricing
« Reply #18 on: November 17, 2014, 11:02:59 AM »

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Friend had to pay up front and then file claim with his ESP

That is an interesting point... I can imagine a dealership making this argument just to be difficult, but both ESP's, CNA or Cornerstone, are aftermarket products.
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Re: Updated ESP pricing
« Reply #19 on: November 17, 2014, 11:08:53 AM »

Wonder how many Harley dealers (if any) will accept the Cornerstone ESP as payment.  Not a motorcycle related event but similar circumstances - friend had a Ford with third party ESP and dealer refused to honor it.  Said he did not deal with the ESP company and did not want to deal with getting authorization for repair, payment, etc.  Friend had to pay up front and then file claim with his ESP.  I'm thinking that many dealers will not be inclined to deal with an ESP other than Harley's.  Be interesting to see how this shakes out when repairs are needed.


When I worked for several Chrysler stores the standard was - Chrysler ESP worked just like the original manufacturers warranty as far as the customer was concerned.
Any non Chrysler product was "you pay us and then you try and collect from your contract company".
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Re: Updated ESP pricing
« Reply #20 on: November 17, 2014, 11:50:00 AM »

Wonder how many Harley dealers (if any) will accept the Cornerstone ESP as payment.  Not a motorcycle related event but similar circumstances - friend had a Ford with third party ESP and dealer refused to honor it.  Said he did not deal with the ESP company and did not want to deal with getting authorization for repair, payment, etc.  Friend had to pay up front and then file claim with his ESP.  I'm thinking that many dealers will not be inclined to deal with an ESP other than Harley's.  Be interesting to see how this shakes out when repairs are needed.

I guess it depends on whether they want the work or not.  Don't forget you don't have to use a Harley dealership for ESP work, either the one H-D promotes and sells, or the Cornerstone version.  Anyone who has a good independent shop in their area should talk to that shop and see if they are approved by the ESP company and will accept assignment and file the claim for you.  If not, you can still pay the bill and then submit the claim to the ESP folks yourself.  Very similar to how things work in the healthcare business.  If you go to a nonparticipating provider that won't file your claim, you get a detailed bill and submit the claim yourself.  Yes, it's not as seamless and convenient that way.  But in some cases if you want better care (or service) than you can get with a participating provider or a Harley dealership, it's worth it to spend a little time filing claims yourself.

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Re: Updated ESP pricing
« Reply #21 on: November 17, 2014, 11:51:03 AM »

That is an interesting point... I can imagine a dealership making this argument just to be difficult, but both ESP's, CNA or Cornerstone, are aftermarket products.
Yeah, but . . . CNA's is sold by Harley (and blessed by them), Cornerstone's is not.  Might want to check with your preferred dealer to avoid being caught in a pizzing contest between the dealer and the ESP. 
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Re: Updated ESP pricing
« Reply #22 on: November 17, 2014, 11:53:03 AM »

I guess it depends on whether they want the work or not.  Don't forget you don't have to use a Harley dealership for ESP work, either the one H-D promotes and sells, or the Cornerstone version.  Anyone who has a good independent shop in their area should talk to that shop and see if they are approved by the ESP company and will accept assignment and file the claim for you.  If not, you can still pay the bill and then submit the claim to the ESP folks yourself.

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Understand and agree.  But if the repair is major and there is a difference of opinion between the dealer and the ESP there could be a problem.  Unfortunately we don't have any indys in our area so we have to deal with the moco dealers.
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Re: Updated ESP pricing
« Reply #23 on: November 17, 2014, 12:29:31 PM »

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Unfortunately we don't have any indys in our area so we have to deal with the moco dealers.

I'm pretty much in the same situation and plan to investigate indy shops in my area. If there were any of great merit I'd most likely already be aware of them. However, the dealership is two miles from my home so is convenient. I've purchased three new bikes from them since 2005, hopefully that means something...

This forum has opened my eyes pursuant to multiple issues and research indicates my dealer is the most expensive around on interval service and other work, plus they offer zero discount on parts and accessories. I'm at the point where I refuse to pay more for the exact same part that can be purchased elsewhere for less. My CVO has two more interval services pre-paid at my dealer. After that I'll probably do the basic tasks myself if I can't find a shop I like. My ESP was purchased through my dealer so I'll see how that goes when it kicks in mid-February 2015...
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Re: Updated ESP pricing
« Reply #24 on: November 17, 2014, 04:58:06 PM »

 I am wondering about these myself. Dealer is quoting 2373 for 5 extra years. The plan Kutter sells in a grand less.
 I have had good luck with my other bikes. This one (2014 Limited CVO) scares me a little with all the new tech.
 Still on the fence. Guess I have a while to decide. Really need to find out about the exhaust. Those cats got to go!
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Re: Updated ESP pricing
« Reply #25 on: November 17, 2014, 05:03:39 PM »

Whew, these ESPs have really gone up in price.  Bought mine in Dec 2011 for my 2012 cuse7 from a moco dealer who would and could discount.  Paid $1,450 for the 5-year ESP (that is total of 7 years, 2 moco, 5 ESP) with wheel and tire.  Guess the repair costs are getting to them.   :nixweiss:
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Re: Updated ESP pricing
« Reply #26 on: November 28, 2014, 10:17:33 PM »

I just traded in a 2011 Street Glide that has the 2+5 ESP.  I didn't transfer the remaining I got a refund of $857 and bought the ESP on my new SG CVO.
Price $1554 for the 2+4 @ Charlie's HD Huntington WV
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Re: Updated ESP pricing
« Reply #27 on: December 02, 2014, 07:05:38 PM »

I'm not really a fan of extended warranties, but this one has me intrigued. I called my local dealer today and he said no problem, he would just set up an account with them (cornerstone) and do the work. He gave me  a quick response to this question with no hesitation at all. I then called two other dealerships and they responded almost in the same manner. For $335.00 a year ( 5 additional years with tire and wheel), it seems like a no brainer for our type of bike and it's so called problems, plus it's transferable when or if you sell it. JMO.   P.S. And I was in the automobile retail business for 35 plus years and believe this is a good value for your bucks.
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Re: Updated ESP pricing
« Reply #28 on: December 02, 2014, 07:33:04 PM »

I do believe the best time to purchase the esp is when you buy the bike, not almost two years later like I did.
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Re: Updated ESP pricing
« Reply #29 on: December 02, 2014, 08:26:25 PM »

I just traded in a 2011 Street Glide that has the 2+5 ESP.  I didn't transfer the remaining I got a refund of $857 and bought the ESP on my new SG CVO.
Price $1554 for the 2+4 @ Charlie's HD Huntington WV
Is that including tire and wheel? My dealer offered me 10% off today the +4 package. Normally $1984 minus the 10% comes to $1785.60.
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