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security system lockout
« on: September 20, 2014, 01:56:12 PM »

Hey y'all. Got a situation I need some help with and I'm afraid it's going to result in a trip to the dealership. But before it does, I wanted to see what I could come up with here.

I had surgery on my left shoulder this past May. Finally got the okay to start riding again from the surgeon. The bike hasn't been cranked in over two months and is stored in my garage under the cover. So I go out to start the bike yesterday turn the switch on and the alarm goes through a series of three alarm sets before I can pull the master fuse and shut it off. I know, I know; what a dumb-___ move! I've had it chirp and carry on a little bit when I first stand it up before, but it's never done that. Anyway, the bike won't start, the fuel pump won't spool up when I turn the ignition switch on; the headlamp won't even come on when I turn the switch on. The battery is a brand new gel pack I installed right before I had surgery back in May. The neutral light does come on and it pulses when the switch is on. I hooked it up to the battery tender all night and still got nothing. What gives? It's a 2010 Ultra and I'm thinking that it's got to be something with the security system. Thanks.
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Re: security system lockout
« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2014, 02:13:13 PM »

i don't think it's related to the security system.  when the security kicks in, it has nothing to do with any lights, or the fuel pump priming.  all it does it keep the starter from engaging.  try a different battery, it sounds like it has discharged too much and suffered some internal damage....
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Re: security system lockout
« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2014, 03:15:36 PM »

I agree with trying a different battery. I tried on of those batteries once (can't remember the name). It worked great for a couple short rides then started doing all kinds of different crazy things with the electrical system. No damage was done but a regular battery made everything go back to normal. Good luck.
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Re: security system lockout
« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2014, 03:18:17 PM »

Sounds like very low battery voltage; that will cause all the symptoms you mentioned.  While you're thinking about batteries, you might want to change the battery in your security fobs as well.  They tend to have a fairly short life.

If the battery in the bike is relatively new, you could try charging it with a good automotive charger.  Once a battery is dead or nearly dead, a battery tender won't usually do the trick and you'll need at least a 10 amp charger to get the process going.

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Re: security system lockout
« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2014, 04:25:51 PM »

Thanks, fellas. I appreciate the responses. I've got a good automotive charger on stand-by. I'll try that first and if that doesn't fix it, I'll try another battery. Take care and ride safe, all of you.
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Re: security system lockout
« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2014, 04:55:15 PM »

Beware, some gel batteries require a special battery charger and it will not be a pleasant outcome if a conventional charger is used!!! Don't know exactly what ones, but at my shop we purchased a gel charger and just use it on all gel cell batteries so we don't have any problems.
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Re: security system lockout
« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2014, 07:15:22 PM »


Missed that part.  Is it a true "gel" battery, or just a regular AGM that some folks misrepresent as a gel battery?  If it truly is a gel battery, then you need a different battery charger that limits output voltage to a level that's safe for a gel cell battery.  A standard automotive charger can overheat and dry out the gelled electrolyte, ruining the battery.

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Re: security system lockout
« Reply #7 on: September 20, 2014, 08:04:44 PM »

since you pulled the mater fuse, have you checked to see if that might be an issue... 
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Re: security system lockout
« Reply #8 on: September 21, 2014, 07:45:36 AM »

I liked the idea of changing the FOB battery. It makes weird things happen when it gets low
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Re: security system lockout
« Reply #9 on: September 21, 2014, 08:22:30 AM »

Yeah the fob battery would be the first thing I would try.
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Re: security system lockout
« Reply #10 on: September 21, 2014, 09:42:11 PM »

it won't hurt to change the fob battery, but the fob battery would have no effect on the fuel pump priming or keeping the headlight from illuminating.....
« Last Edit: September 23, 2014, 07:09:17 AM by ekim60 »
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Re: security system lockout
« Reply #11 on: September 21, 2014, 11:30:49 PM »

You are probably right about the key fob. But trying to start a cvo without it or with a dead fob battery shuts everything down...pump and all...or am I wrong?
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Re: security system lockout
« Reply #12 on: September 23, 2014, 07:07:50 AM »

yes, you are wrong.  if you try to start without the fob (or with a dead fob battery), the fuel pump will still prime, the lights will still work.  basically, what happens is everything works like it should, except when you hit the start button, nothing happens, except if you have an audible alarm, it should start screaming at you.  if not, your turn signals will just do a lot of blinking.
« Last Edit: September 23, 2014, 07:11:02 AM by ekim60 »
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Re: security system lockout
« Reply #13 on: September 28, 2014, 06:47:49 PM »

I had the same problem last year with my Ultra LTD. Both fob batteries were dead. I put fresh batteries in as a last resort and it started right up. Keep a few spares with you.
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