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Harley Davidson won at marketing for 2014?
« on: January 12, 2015, 11:31:38 AM »

From Yahoo this morning...   https://autos.yahoo.com/news/harley-davidson-winning-motorcycle-marketing-140027863.html 


Harley-Davidson is Winning at Motorcycle Marketing
RideApart
By William Connor
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I got to spend some time at the Progressive International Motorcycle Show this weekend in Washington D.C. It's not the biggest iteration of the show, but it was filled with all kinds of two-wheeled goodness, and some new three-wheeled toys (ones that aren't called Slingshots).

What I was more interested in was how one manufacturer won the marketing war for the entire show, and despite me calling out Suzuki for a lackluster line up (click the link below), they finished second for a great fan experience.

READ MORE: What Was Your Favorite Moment in Motorcycling in 2014?

Say what you want about Harley-Davidson, but the mainstream media gets it wrong on the brand's demographics. While the majority of their buyers are over 50 and white, they sell more bikes to minorities and women (Source: Dealernews.com and Polk Data) than all other manufacturers combined in the US. Chew on that for a second. Let it marinate and realize that H-D sold over 220,000 plus motorcycles in the first nine months of 2014 (Source: H-D Quarterly Sales Report). BMW was roughly half of that in the same time period (Source: BMW Quarterly Sales Report). Yet H-D is considered out of touch and BMW is hip and modern.


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Here is one of the reasons why H-D is winning on those non-traditional categories. At the show this year and for the last several years H-D has set up a Fat Boy on a chassis dyno roller that riders with no experience can jump on and learn to shift and work the throttle.

READ MORE: Does Harley-Davidson's Electric Bike Live Up to Hype? We Ride Project LiveWire... - RideApart

In the middle of the show floor inside they are letting people run their motorcycle. The staff was super friendly with both men and women instructors catering to new and non-riders alike. The wait was over an hour long for most the day. No other vendor had even close to that type of attention.

H-D's booth was surrounded by vendors with giveaways, talking microphone-wielding pitch men, and booth girls. But only Harley-Davidson had a running motorcycle. Well, technically there was one other bike. H-D had brought the Live Wire to the show and guess what it was doing. Yep, it too was running on a chassis dyno roller; people got a chance to twist the grip on their electric motorcycle.


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A year ago my wife took the opportunity to ride the Fat Boy on the roller. She had never ridden a bike as the rider, never shifted, and still talks about it when we meet people. That is winning in the marketing world.

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Suzuki

The only other manufacturer who did something unique was Suzuki. With the possibility of the Recursion going into production and this small nugget of hope 2015 could be a banner year for the brand.

The bike they had was not running; it was for hero shots only. It did give you the chance to look like you were dragging a knee, and the girl taking pictures was worth stopping by to check out as well. People were once again lined up for something that wasn't straight out of the late Billy Mays playbook of salesmanship.


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What's My Point?

Glad you asked. My point is you can't just build a better bike and survive in business. You have to be able to talk about the product, engage riders in the product, and create your own market loyalty. Harley-Davidson does this as well, if not better, than any other brand.

People who ride H-D's tattoo the logo on their bodies, not one time, but usually several. That's a rider with passion about their motorcycle choice and not someone who is going to be swayed by a stopping distance 2 feet shorter or 10 more horsepower. In the battle of marketing H-D is way ahead.

The topic of H-D steadfastly clinging to a dying ship is often portrayed by the media, other riders, and even investors. When you look at the sales numbers, market growth, and expansion into non traditional markets like India H-D is poised to stay on top of the sales heap for quite some time. H-D spent last year throwing parties all over India and selling their lifestyle and custom scene to the masses. India is a hot bed for custom motorcycles, small "postie" bikes and was one of the first places to get a Street 750 from corporate H-D to customize.

So tell us do you agree or disagree? Will H-D stay on top, do you think they are a dying brand, and tell us why.

If you have not seen the bike from Rajputana Customs check it out below.


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Re: Harley Davidson won at marketing for 2014?
« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2015, 11:44:47 AM »

Nice little read, thanks :2vrolijk_21:
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Re: Harley Davidson won at marketing for 2014?
« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2015, 12:01:53 PM »

Interesting article - Connor makes some good points... Thanks for posting JC.
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Re: Harley Davidson won at marketing for 2014?
« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2015, 10:46:08 AM »

Thanks for the article. Very interesting.
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Re: Harley Davidson won at marketing for 2014?
« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2015, 12:06:23 PM »

Hmmm....Marketing....is that the same as Brain Washing??? ...just saying...
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Re: Harley Davidson won at marketing for 2014?
« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2015, 01:11:33 PM »

Hmmm....Marketing....is that the same as Brain Washing??? ...just saying...

Hmmm, you may have a point there!
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Re: Harley Davidson won at marketing for 2014?
« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2015, 01:16:10 PM »

Money making schemes by the propaganda machine.  Isn't that what HOG is? :nixweiss:
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Re: Harley Davidson won at marketing for 2014?
« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2015, 02:54:37 PM »

Harley in my opinion wins at marketing too but not sure how the theme of nostalgia and family of HOG will hold up overseas. It will be interesting to see if the average Harley buyer overseas buys into the marketing hype or buys it because of price and quality compared to anything else in their market. I know the disposable income is growing overseas but wondering how the percentage compares to those who would buy a bike for everyday transportation?
I have always said Harley has it tough since their sales seemed based on nostalgia and family, hard to keep the mechanicals of 1936 meeting new government regulations for noise and pollution. Harley seems to not be concerned with beating the other bike makers in a horsepower/displacement war like the car manufacturers.
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Re: Harley Davidson won at marketing for 2014?
« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2015, 03:17:49 PM »

Thanks for posting this...
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Re: Harley Davidson won at marketing for 2014?
« Reply #9 on: January 13, 2015, 03:34:45 PM »

Warning! Stream of consciousness ahead...

Harley is about the whole motorcycling lifestyle, which is much more than just the bikes and their raw performance... or perhaps lack thereof from a purist's perspective. The MoCo makes tons of cash on H-D licensed products, and people seem to buy them in large numbers. No one is forcing anyone to buy anything with the Harley logo on it, but tons of people choose to do so, and I don't think it's brainwashing.... it's appealing to peoples' emotions and their self-image. It just feels good!

I very much enjoy (once again) getting together and just riding with friends. My wife and I were with my best friend and his GF a couple of weekends ago, looking for a used bike for his GF - and with them I made my first visit to a Harley dealer in well over a year. It was fun looking around at all of the new bikes, accessories, clothing, etc... but the only thing I bought was a couple of stickers for the rear window of my Avy.

I was a HOG member for my first couple of years - but I never went to a meeting, nor ever went on a HOG ride. I just never got into it. I have heard all kinds of stories about how political things get with the officer, ride captain, etc. positions... but I don't really know because I don't like getting involved with formal groups anyway.

After riding for a long time, and having gotten into Harleys awhile back and spending a boatload on P&A and clothing, I think I've gotten to the point of being able to just relax and ride, and not feel the need nor the desire to participate in every event at every dealer in the area, nor buy new Harley stuff all the time. It's fun sometimes, though. My wife doesn't enjoy that part very much tho... she gets bored at those events pretty quickly, so I will usually just go with a friend.

I like Harleys mainly because they are just such damn beautiful machines... the CVOs in particular. You don't see paint like Harleys have coming out of any other brand... not even close. To me, all other brands are really quite pedestrian-looking when you see them next to a Harley... and anything else really pales in comparison to a CVO!

We all love to complain on the forums about all of the mechanical weak points and things that have gone wrong on our bikes... And I've done my fair share of that, and invested quite a bit of money fixing things before something failed. But I would wager that there are a whole lot of very happy Harley riders out there who are not even on forums, and are just riding and enjoying it.

Oh, and the SOUND! (Once you "fix" it!)  8)

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Re: Harley Davidson won at marketing for 2014?
« Reply #10 on: January 14, 2015, 09:48:58 AM »

Thanks for posting good read.
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Re: Harley Davidson won at marketing for 2014?
« Reply #11 on: January 14, 2015, 05:51:28 PM »

I know a lot people besides myself that have swallowed it hook, line, & sinker...
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Re: Harley Davidson won at marketing for 2014?
« Reply #12 on: January 14, 2015, 05:59:31 PM »

I know a lot people besides myself that have swallowed it hook, line, & sinker...
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Re: Harley Davidson won at marketing for 2014?
« Reply #13 on: January 20, 2015, 11:45:18 AM »

I know a lot people besides myself that have swallowed it hook, line, & sinker...

X3 and to add we enjoyed it a lot. I enjoy being a part of the Harley extended family. While they are good at marketing they are not selling pure crap.
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Re: Harley Davidson won at marketing for 2014?
« Reply #14 on: February 16, 2015, 07:19:20 PM »

Nicely stated, Ken.
Myself, I've been a (National) HOG member for 12 years, attended 1 meeting, and
never been on an organized Chapter ride (yet).
Not that I have anything against any of that...just not really "in to that" so-far.
I've owned a number of non-Harley bikes - and NONE have ever held "touched"
me quite like my Harley's. And my CVO (to me) is the finest looking ride I've had.
It's not the fastest, not the most technologically advanced...but, HOT DAMN!
The "Harley mystique" is more than just the iron...
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