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[laylonlor]

[laylonlor]

[kiro]

The Chris Rock video was hilarious laylonlor! Thanks for the laugh to start the day... 

[lilcoot]

This is scary stuff:

Last Week Tonight with John Oliver: Civil Forfeiture (HBO ...

[Dr.D]

I read all this last night and got so mad i could go to sleep. This makes the police and the government more a criminal than the cartels and drug lords. Nothing short of piracy on the road. The laws and t enforcement in this country are way out of control. How is this any different than the actions of the English Crown that precipitated the revolution.

Power and money corrupt and they are now married at the police department. Next time you are going down the road is it going to be the good cop or the lousy greedy pig with his lights on behind you?

[T-Roy]

I read all this last night and got so mad i could go to sleep. This makes the police and the government more a criminal than the cartels and drug lords. Nothing short of piracy on the road. The laws and t enforcement in this country are way out of control. How is this any different than the actions of the English Crown that precipitated the revolution.

Power and money corrupt and they are now married at the police department. Next time you are going down the road is it going to be the good cop or the lousy greedy pig with his lights on behind you?

AMEN!!! I watched the 1st episode of Sons of Patriots last night on the History channel. As I watched it that is exactly what was going through my mind. I wonder what would go through the politicians in Washingtons minds, that DO NOT uphold our Constitution, if they were to watch it??

[Dr.D]

AMEN!!! I watched the 1st episode of Sons of Patriots last night on the History channel. As I watched it that is exactly what was going through my mind. I wonder what would go through the politicians in Washingtons minds, that DO NOT uphold our Constitution, if they were to watch it??

I would bet nothing goes through their minds. They are in such deceived denial that they have no clue that they are the problem.

[2 ROSE]

I am not a knowledgeable history guy but if the History Channel show Sons of Liberty is accurate this kind of confiscation has been going on since before the forming of this nation...on the show Sons, John Hancock had his house confiscated under armed guard...just thrown out on the street. You might say...well that couldn't happen today...but I am under the belief that anything that happen before can happen again.
And like Mr. Handcock, most of us will do nothing until it happens to us personally.

[T-Roy]

I am not a knowledgeable history guy but if the History Channel show Sons of Patriots is accurate this kind of confiscation has been going on since before the forming of this nation...on the show Sons, John Hancock had his house confiscated under armed guard...just thrown out on the street. You might say...well that couldn't happen today...but I am under the belief that anything that happen before can happen again.
And like Mr. Handcock, most of us will do nothing until it happens to us personally.

Well Said SIR!!!

[Dr.D]

I am not a knowledgeable history guy but if the History Channel show Sons of Patriots is accurate this kind of confiscation has been going on since before the forming of this nation...on the show Sons, John Hancock had his house confiscated under armed guard...just thrown out on the street. You might say...well that couldn't happen today...but I am under the belief that anything that happen before can happen again.
And like Mr. Handcock, most of us will do nothing until it happens to us personally.

…. and then it began to be ok to shoot people doing the "confiscating". Then it was the only right thing to do, that is shoot and kill the Redcoats. I wonder if we will get a full repeat of history in this country?

Remember the story on the OP that the authorities threatened to take the woman's children from her and put her in jail unless she walked away and left her money. How far from needing killin is that? For no offense even worth a citation, trial or conviction they can take your home, money, wife and kids. How much further does it have to go?

[VaEagle]

I see this as a multilayer problem with no quick fix.
Just my .02 but I think there are too many laws on the books, general law abiding public doesn't realize passing another law won't fix a problem, and politicians spend more time trying to get reelected then doing anything worthwhile, many times laws are passed not realizing the law will have a negative effect too.
1. Too many laws lead to problems like who has time to enforce them? and disrespect for the law in general.
2. The general public thinks passing a law will stop the criminal from bad behavior, after all they wouldn't break the law....they need to realize the criminal is already breaking the law to begin with so what is one more law broken?
3. Politicians now spend more time now with concern over reelection that they want to appease the "squeaky wheel" voter and get laws passed quickly without examining the need for the new law to begin with much less look at possible negative side effects.
Civil Forfeiture sounds like a good idea when used against a known criminal with evidence of that crime, like the drug lords and Ponzi schemers etc. that it was probably intended to punish for wrongdoing. The problem I see is that you now don't have to be convicted of a crime to have your property taken away from you.
This does kind of make me think about other areas like since the O.J. Simpson/ Nicole Brown domestic/murder case many jurisdictions issue protective orders banning the accused aggressor from their house and other possible restrictions before ever being convicted of a crime? How is that done constitutionally? And consider that piece of paper really won't protect a victim if the person is already willing to break the law on assaulting a person?