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[Gone Fishin']

It's not for me, but probably for many. http://powersports.honda.com/furyreveal/#/home

[naitram]

looks like a bad ass VTX to me

[HogBreath]

I'd rather see my sister in a whore house as to see my brother ride a Honda.

[RedDevil]

I'd rather see my sister in a whore house as to see my brother ride a Honda.

Don't hold back Ken...tell us how you really feel.   

   

[RedDevil]

Actually, that looks more like they're going after Victory than Harley.  That looks morte like a Victory Vegas than a softail.   

   

[Boatman]

Don't hold back Ken...tell us how you really feel.   

   

 

[RickC]

It's got a freaking radiator... ugh!

[badhorse]

Not for me either, but competition is always good.

[110tHunDer]

 
Holy crap!  A Japanese bike without a visible tank seam running the whole length of the bottom of the tank!

[ice6900]

It's got a freaking radiator... ugh!

the radiator is pretty well disguised though, at first glance i didnt notice it, hats off to them.

not 4 either.

[Gone Fishin']

I'd rather see my sister in a whore house as to see my brother ride a Honda.

Well said.

[Gone Fishin']

the radiator is pretty well disguised though, at first glance i didnt notice it, hats off to them.

not 4 either.

Yeah. On the website is a red bike, and you can see the radiator more sticking out. Didn't see it one black one either. Thats the way to go (unfortunately) for the Moco too. Or they will come up with a liquid (probably heads only) cooled engine. That could work with an even smaller oil cooler, maybe combined with the tank. In any case it's going to be tough to do it well on the Dyna and Softtail models. The Touring bikes make it probably a little easier. Sign of the times!

Ride safely,
Louis

[spydglide]

good looking scooter.  not sure about that retro speedo on that bike though.  har!  spyder

[amigo Jorge]

not for me....I have never considered to ride a jap yet.......

[1abastarsmda]

NO

[Ditch]

I think i will pass! Looks like a cheap toy! Good old HD Bikes & Chrome hits the spot!

[dps4]

has there ever been a survey on this site of how many CVO owners own a Jap car?

[sportygordy]

I'll pass on the jap crap

[Keats]

picts

[Keats]

Amazing, does not look like any Japan bike I have ever seen

[comfortablynumb]

Looks like they rushed it together in time for the shows. cheapo!

[MJZ]

Not my taste but my son, who is 21 thinks it looks great. I think this is going after the same market as VRod is trying to get. My guess is in the 20 - 30 year old set, this will be very appealing.

[LRebel]

I would say that Honda's main idea was to design a bike to compete with the Yamaha Raider.

Most folks that want and can afford a Harley are not going to consider a Honda or Yamaha anyway

[DavidG]

Not for me. No soul.

And it probably doesn't mark its territory with oil like mine does.

[BMF-110]

     I agree with DarkEagle on this 1, Try and try as they might, Probably sounds Like a "Singer" sewing machine!

[Hugh Janis]

It's a sharp looking bike.

I'd rather have my sister in a whorehouse too.  It'd get her off the streets at least. 

[BLM777]

What a great example of putting earrings on a pig .... 

[DESERTBEAR54]

NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!   

[ak]

has there ever been a survey on this site of how many CVO owners own a Jap car?

  i switched to toyota,s, and Honda,s for my cars and trucks . Love My Honda ridgeline..  I gave up on fords,and chevy,s in  1985 the us car company lost my biz forever------AK

[JCZ]

  i switched to toyota,s, and Honda,s for my cars and trucks . Love My Honda ridgeline..  I gave up on fords,and chevy,s in  1985 the us car company lost my biz forever------AK

His Bently's not American made either........but I think that Honda truck might be.      

[BMF-110]

I started domestic, Hate to be a quiter, trying to keep some faith!! call me old fashioned.

[JCZ]

Seriously, it's a nice looking bike for what it is.....clean lines (they can thank HD for that), and they even have a leg up on the finish (no big ugly weld lines, etc. that HD has been known for), it's liquid cooled and they did a good job of hiding that as much as possible and it's shaft drive (for those that like that kind of smoothness) but I don't think it'll appeal to anybody here.

I suspect that the marketing will be geared towards those who really want an HD but can't afford one.  All this coming from the company that fifteen or twenty years ago used to advertise that a V-twin will never be successful.  Go figure......

[miker]

Rice bike minichopper...I have a headache...

[mungam]

 
Well I have owned Both a Magna and Still own the VTX.
No matter what you think my stock VTX for 14,200 (with warrenty and special paint) would leave a stock CVO with a 103 behind.  It wasn't until the 110's came out that I had to make sure I stayed with the group.

I spent 4-5k on the VTX trying to turn it into a SEEG. (windshield, bags, highway bars, seat, aux lighting, speaker system....)

No I am not sorry I bought my SEEG.

But to turn the SEEG into my VTX I need to spend another 4-5K.
performance upgrades, better brakes, better audio......WTF.....did I miss something?
Oh right.....if you have to ask you wouldn't understand.
36 states and 7 Canadian provinces.  The VTX never let me down, it never left me stranded.

My VTX was built by Americans in America.
How many parts on HD's come from Mexico or other countries?

I know I am going to get flack for this post......
But the members of this site have always been very kind to me even though I rode what I rode.

I always believed it was the fact that I rode, not what I rode.
We all share the love of the wind in our face and bugs in our teeth. 

Steve

To say another brand will take competition away from Harley, once you get above the price of a high end Sportster, if you want a Harley you'll get a Harley. If someone gets a different bike than Harley, more than likely they were not particular in getting a Harley and looking for the best bang for their buck. The Honda is as nice as a metric "chopper" can be but it is no more a Harley than a Magna, VTX, Virago, Star, Victory, etc...

HD is doing as best as they can offering alternatives to consumers that would just as well buy a non-Harley bike with the various more affordable lines of Sportsters, V-Rods, and entry level Dyna, Softail, & Touring bikes.

If anything, the "competition better watch out everytime a new Harley model is released with a MSRP less than $15,000 to $18,000. I'd get a Nightster or Dyna Bobber before that Honday Fury if I had a choice and on a "fixed budget".

[Talon]

I have no problems with Honda, but don't like this bike, just looks pretty plain to me. I had a 83 V65, over a 100hp stock, all kinds of nice suspension adjustment. Rode it for 15 years other than routine up keep and things I wanted to add, I probably spent $200 on maintenance.

[FNGw/08SERK]

I have no problems with Honda, but don't like this bike, just looks pretty plain to me. I had a 83 V65, over a 100hp stock, all kinds of nice suspension adjustment. Rode it for 15 years other than routine up keep and things I wanted to add, I probably spent $200 on maintenance.

..... as it should be. I would go as far to suggest that unless Harley gets there they will continue to have difficulty attracting the demographic they desperately need. The younger generation!!! JMHO of course!!

[mungam]

Well I will say I spent a lot more than 200.00 on maintenance.
That was 1 area I didn't cut back on.  Not happy with the cost, but I always rode it home.

Steve

I have no problems with Honda, but don't like this bike, just looks pretty plain to me. I had a 83 V65, over a 100hp stock, all kinds of nice suspension adjustment. Rode it for 15 years other than routine up keep and things I wanted to add, I probably spent $200 on maintenance.

[miker]

I think I spent $200 doing the top end of my 34 year old honda, 4 cylinder...

$79 bucks for a new carb for my 39 year old one, they both run great...

They are what they is....Still want a cbx....

[SPIDERMAN]

It's got a freaking radiator... ugh!

So does a V-Rod, not that I'm running down to my loca Honda dealer anytime soon, but it does appear their engineers are starting to get a better feel for the cruiser/chopper look than in years past. I agree with the member who posted that this ride is geared more to competing with Victory than H-D. This bike looks like a Victory Vegas/Big Dog

B B

[Hoist!]

Well I have owned Both a Magna and Still own the VTX.
No matter what you think my stock VTX for 14,200 (with warrenty and special paint) would leave a stock CVO with a 103 behind.  It wasn't until the 110's came out that I had to make sure I stayed with the group.

I spent 4-5k on the VTX trying to turn it into a SEEG. (windshield, bags, highway bars, seat, aux lighting, speaker system....)

No I am not sorry I bought my SEEG.

But to turn the SEEG into my VTX I need to spend another 4-5K.
performance upgrades, better brakes, better audio......WTF.....did I miss something?
Oh right.....if you have to ask you wouldn't understand.
36 states and 7 Canadian provinces.  The VTX never let me down, it never left me stranded.

My VTX was built by Americans in America.
How many parts on HD's come from Mexico or other countries?

I know I am going to get flack for this post......
But the members of this site have always been very kind to me even though I rode what I rode.

I always believed it was the fact that I rode, not what I rode.
We all share the love of the wind in our face and bugs in our teeth. 

Steve

Steve, everything you wrote makes PERFECT sense! There are NO categories with an HD that offers a superior product from an engineering standpoint. There are NO sound reasons from an engineering standpoint to buy these bikes over other bikes. Then why would anyone in their right mind buy one over other bikes? Cause we love em anyway, in spite of their antiquated design! We love the soul that comes with them that none of the others can offer! (Yes, I've owned Jap bikes.) We love the lure and legend that HD has become in over a century of production! We love the brotherhood, culture and mystique that comes with the HD lifestyle. We love that it brings us together with similar minded people, and how easy it is to meet them when we have these bikes in common! We love how these bikes ride and feel, even though they might not be the most technologically advanced! Not saying it's not at all possible to get that feel from other bikes. But I for one never have! I'd never knock anyone for owning another brand. I'd never own a Softail either, even though it's a HD. But I'd rather see someone in the wind on ANYTHING, than not be in the wind at all! But for me, a HD (or an improved aftermarket version) is the only way to go!!! But hey, WTF do I know!

Hoist!

[miker]

My rice bikes do not have radiators...Old school babe....

I digress, my pal and his new busa come down to the cigar store, black and orange, nice colors at least.

I says...Here take my serk out for a spin...He comes back grinning ear to ear, the next day...on a new road king, busa been parked since..He dumped a small azzpile into the busa too, carbon fiber gee gaws, exhaust and tune now can't get rid of it for half of whats into it...It was fun to ride but I do not need to wheelie at 70 in 3rd gear especially by accident..

[Gone Fishin']

To say another brand will take competition away from Harley, once you get above the price of a high end Sportster, if you want a Harley you'll get a Harley. If someone gets a different bike than Harley, more than likely they were not particular in getting a Harley and looking for the best bang for their buck. The Honda is as nice as a metric "chopper" can be but it is no more a Harley than a Magna, VTX, Virago, Star, Victory, etc...

HD is doing as best as they can offering alternatives to consumers that would just as well buy a non-Harley bike with the various more affordable lines of Sportsters, V-Rods, and entry level Dyna, Softail, & Touring bikes.

If anything, the "competition better watch out everytime a new Harley model is released with a MSRP less than $15,000 to $18,000. I'd get a Nightster or Dyna Bobber before that Honday Fury if I had a choice and on a "fixed budget".

With all respect, I think you are missing the point. Harley is in very difficult times and they try to broaden their market. The customers like us, who seldom even look at another brand are a dying group. The Harley myth today is carried by 50 to 60 year olds. For many younger customers the opportunity to buy a technically superior bike (whatever one has to say about Honda, and I do not like them, but it is technically superior) with more punch at a lower price point will absolutely be appealing. And this will impact Harley's ability to broaden their market. Trust me, they'd rather build and sell 500,000 bikes annually instead of 300,000. And the Honda is, to my best knowledge, so far the best "knock-off" of the original V2 softtail design. This is actually some competition from a very large and serious manufacturer, not the couple of hundreds Indians or Victorys.

Ride safely,
Louis

[SPIDERMAN]

Lemme see if I can really put this into words. Howie did a pretty good job but there's a bit more to it I think.

Recently my wife and I went to see Benjamin Button. There's a scene in the movie where Brad Pitt is riding down a country road on an old Indian. I think how you react to the scene defines whether or not you're a Harley person. If something in your soul stirs at the thought of riding that old iron then you're a Harley person. If you smile at the antiquity of the vehicle then you're not. Simple as that - - - - - I think 

B B

[Hoist!]

Lemme see if I can really put this into words. Howie did a pretty good job but there's a bit more to it I think.

Recently my wife and I went to see Benjamin Button. There's a scene in the movie where Brad Pitt is riding down a country road on an old Indian. I think how you react to the scene defines whether or not you're a Harley person. If something in your soul stirs at the thought of riding that old iron then you're a Harley person. If you smile at the antiquity of the vehicle then you're not. Simple as that - - - - - I think 

B B

HeHe!!! You're right B B! It's near impossible to explain, and makes me think of the old adage that I've always hated, but does seem appropriate as an explanation. For lack of any other better way to put it, "If I have to explain why, you'll never understand!" seems to work, especially since pure logic alone surely can't explain it!!!

Hoist!

[miker]

Thats why all youz need an oldster, sumtin to leak in the garage besides a new bike... 

[Hoist!]

Thats why all youz need an oldster, sumtin to leak in the garage besides a new bike... 

An original '84 evo motor on a rigid frame's as old school as I'll be going Mike! But don't worry, it'll still be a chain driven 4-speed leaker for ole time sakes!!! Might not hold a candle in the leaking department to your Oldster, but I'll still get the same looks as you when she leaves her mark on someone's new cement job!!!

Hoist!

[Talon]

Thats why all youz need an oldster, sumtin to leak in the garage besides a new bike... 

There you go! I'd love to get an old bike like your's!

[Gone Fishin']

We've always thought along these lines ...

[Keats]

Thats why all youz need an oldster, sumtin to leak in the garage besides a new bike... 

I noticed the nice pavers in the driveway, do you carry a piece of cardboard to catch the oil?

[SPIDERMAN]

My comments were in response to the title of the the 1st post, and just expressing my opinion on the subject. I think there are several points made and really do get all of them.

I'm just saying there is a completely different market for die hard Harley owners compared to others. Yes, you are right we are a dying breed but in this economy even before it collapsed, the 40 to 60+ year olds are the majority with an income to afford a Harley. And I do see younger riders going for the Harley.

I agree riding is riding no matter what bike you have, I don't have issue with metrics, just don't see the Fury as competition to a softail Harley IMHO. I also agree that it is not a matter of having the most sophisicated and technical evolved bike that defines a Harley, it is a bit of soul you can't quite capture with anything else.

I do appreciate these discussions, I don't take any offense and don't mean to with anyone else. It is hard to express why we like our Harleys, I just recall someone once saying something about Harley owners having something of substance between their legs.

I'm sorry, did I miss the part where we acted as though we GAF ? 

The best threads are the ones that engender discussion.

That's the difference between a forum and a website I believe.

B B

[BMF-110]

Well said..

[nidan]

The rear fender sits too high , but altogether not a bad looking bike.

I certainly woudln't consider it though

[RickC]

has there ever been a survey on this site of how many CVO owners own a Jap car?

My cages are a Ford Explorer and a PT Cruiser...

[BigLew]

As my bud Howie would say, some folks say stuff and because they say it it is true! Whatever......I've been riding since I was 14 and that doesn't make me anything but a rider. I've ridden Ossa Phatoms, Yamahas Hondas, Nortons, BSA's, BMW's and the Harleys. I would say that discussing why someone rides a Harley would be very similar to discussing spiritual issues. You are going to end up in a argument! Jap and German bike get you where you are going and don't break very often. Just don't think they have any soul and the brotherhood of the harley riders is all the Moto Co has going for it. As I have become older, wiser and make better business decisions why did I buy a Harley? It wasn't because its the best buy or the most dependable but because of How It Makes Me Feel When I RIDE. The only complaint I really have is I wish the MotoCo would actually build me the best motorcycle the USA has to offer for the $30K + they ask me to spend. When you compare what the Japs and the Germans can do with the money they spend and you look at the Money the MotoCo ask you to spend..........it's just sad. And their hayday will come to an end usless they start taking some pride in the product. They need to act like "Made in the USA" actually means something!!!!!! I think they need to make a motorcycle that eveyone wants to own because its made in the USA and its the best product money can buy!!!

[Gone Fishin']

As my bud Howie would say, some folks say stuff and because they say it it is true! Whatever......I've been riding since I was 14 and that doesn't make me anything but a rider. I've ridden Ossa Phatoms, Yamahas Hondas, Nortons, BSA's, BMW's and the Harleys. I would say that discussing why someone rides a Harley would be very similar to discussing spiritual issues. You are going to end up in a argument! Jap and German bike get you where you are going and don't break very often. Just don't think they have any soul and the brotherhood of the harley riders is all the Moto Co has going for it. As I have become older, wiser and make better business decisions why did I buy a Harley? It wasn't because its the best buy or the most dependable but because of How It Makes Me Feel When I RIDE. The only complaint I really have is I wish the MotoCo would actually build me the best motorcycle the USA has to offer for the $30K + they ask me to spend. When you compare what the Japs and the Germans can do with the money they spend and you look at the Money the MotoCo ask you to spend..........it's just sad. And their hayday will come to an end usless they start taking some pride in the product. They need to act like "Made in the USA" actually means something!!!!!! I think they need to make a motorcycle that eveyone wants to own because its made in the USA and its the best product money can buy!!!

Well said.

Ride safely,
Louis

[bogman]

Poor attempt at a Harley look alike, rear end is kind of acceptable, Honda's should stick at what they do best, this sucks

[OhioDave]

I took a good look at one this past weekend at the show in Cleveland....from a distance it looked pretty nice, although a closer inspection revealed what must be a lame attempt to make it look home built with the unfinished welds on the upper frame, which looked bad. I also thought the chrome plated plastic engine covers looked cheap, almost like the engine was fake. The sheet metal did look nice....not for me though.

-d

[miker]

I noticed the nice pavers in the driveway, do you carry a piece of cardboard to catch the oil?

I shut the chain olier off and rarely park on the pavers now but there are plenty of spots...
It has a regular drip pan in the garage, it ain't oo bad, about the diameter of a golf ball after each ride..When I had the chain oiler on and was breakin it in, it spat oil everywhere...I use the newfangles oilsorb diaper type pads, works great.

[BLM777]

I took a good look at one this past weekend at the show in Cleveland....from a distance it looked pretty nice, although a closer inspection revealed what must be a lame attempt to make it look home built with the unfinished welds on the upper frame, which looked bad. I also thought the chrome plated plastic engine covers looked cheap, almost like the engine was fake. The sheet metal did look nice....not for me though.

-d

Gotta have chrome plated plastic it's a HONDA!...I've not seen one in person and glad to have an eyeball review.  Thanks.

[karl]

Steve, everything you wrote makes PERFECT sense! There are NO categories with an HD that offers a superior product from an engineering standpoint. There are NO sound reasons from an engineering standpoint to buy these bikes over other bikes. Then why would anyone in their right mind buy one over other bikes? Cause we love em anyway, in spite of their antiquated design! We love the soul that comes with them that none of the others can offer! (Yes, I've owned Jap bikes.) We love the lure and legend that HD has become in over a century of production! We love the brotherhood, culture and mystique that comes with the HD lifestyle. We love that it brings us together with similar minded people, and how easy it is to meet them when we have these bikes in common! We love how these bikes ride and feel, even though they might not be the most technologically advanced! Not saying it's not at all possible to get that feel from other bikes. But I for one never have! I'd never knock anyone for owning another brand. I'd never own a Softail either, even though it's a HD. But I'd rather see someone in the wind on ANYTHING, than not be in the wind at all! But for me, a HD (or an improved aftermarket version) is the only way to go!!! But hey, WTF do I know!   

Hoist!


Well said!!

[spydglide]

I'd never knock anyone for owning another brand. I'd never own a Softail either, even though it's a HD.
Hoist!

Just curious, Hoist, why ya so down on the Softail models?  Ya keep referencing them as if they're not worthy.  Ya never mention other models that you would never own, ie: Springers, etc.  Just wondering  har!  spyder

[RedFXR2]

I think it looks sharp--for that style of bike, regardless of brand.

Without going into a long thing about the HD "soul" and "feel" and stuff, I'll just share this thought:  After many years and several motorcycles, my own, rented, or borrowed, I've come to the conclusion that the ride is about that--the ride, not the brand of bike you're on.  When I look back on my favorite motorcycle trips, I never think about the brand of bike I was on, it was what I saw or where I went, or what happened on the trip.  Unless, of course, I broke down--I remember that stuff about a particular bike.

My biggest problem with the Fury is that Honda named it after a Plymouth.

[mike45]

Most folks that want and can afford a Harley are not going to consider a Honda or Yamaha anyway

That's were I was 7 years ago when I bought a Honda Shadow 750.  I wanted a Harley, but wanted to wait until I'd appreciate it. 

So I chose a foreign bike over buying a girls bike (Sportster).

Now I'll give my Shadow to the wife to learn on until she earns her Fat Bob (which I plan on stealing every chance I get).

[Diamondback]

 

Yes I too started on a BSA 650 in the 60's.  Moved through the Yamaha and Honda stage.  Sport, dirt, cruiser and touring.

The difference is the overall experience with HD.  The bikes, the dealers, the clothes, the aftermarket etc.

But most of all is the experience of riding with a large number o HD riders at the same time.  In the south Texas Hill Country, on any given Saturday or Sunday, you will see a dozen or so HD groups of 5 to 15 bikes riding.  You might see one or two other brands o bikes together.  And mostly young sport bike guys riding balls to the wall at high rates of speed.  Yes, I once did this too.

Also, HD does or at least did a great job of marketing the image.

I'll never go back.