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Re: Lost hydraulic pressure on clutch - clutch recall
« Reply #120 on: April 23, 2015, 02:25:54 PM »

Just found this on another forum.  Don't know if its true but  if it is it speaks volumes on honesty!

"Word has been going around that the owner of East Coast Harley in Dumfries, VA Kurt has been charged with impersonating a police officer and multi other changes this pass Rolling Tunder. He took one of the Fairfax County Police Motorcycle which the bike was in his service department for repairs and service.The police bike was later seen on May 29, 2011 by a Fairfax Police Officer parked in DC on Constitution AVE. The officer know the officer in which the bike belong to and called him. A wrecker was called, but by the time the wrecker got there, Kurt was gone with the police bike.

If this is true Kurt is finally getting his!

He has been doing this for years, every year taking a police bike from his service department and riding it for Rolling Thunder. Wearing a police helmet and riding with the lights on.."

Kurt was the previous owner who ran the dealership to the ground and sold it to the current owner. The current owner has a number of auto dealerships in the area and this was his first HD dealership.
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Re: Lost hydraulic pressure on clutch - clutch recall
« Reply #121 on: April 23, 2015, 02:52:10 PM »

Kurt was the previous owner who ran the dealership to the ground and sold it to the current owner. The current owner has a number of auto dealerships in the area and this was his first HD dealership.

Who seems to be carrying on the tradition of it's previous owner. lol
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Re: Lost hydraulic pressure on clutch - clutch recall
« Reply #122 on: April 23, 2015, 09:51:02 PM »

Important to get to know the dealerships in your area, ask around with other HD owners.  There are 3 dealers where I live, 2 of them are great to do business with, the other one is terrible, really depends on the franchise owners business acumen and what he expects from his/her employees. I am willing to bet by the time I buy my next bike the terrible dealership will be under new ownership or closed.
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Re: Lost hydraulic pressure on clutch - clutch recall
« Reply #123 on: April 24, 2015, 03:13:45 PM »

from CNBC

Harley-Davidson is recalling nearly 46,000 motorcycles in the U.S. because they could stay in gear due to clutches that won't fully disengage.

The recall covers certain Electra Glide, Ultra Limited, Police Electra Glide, Street Glide, Road Glide and Road King models from the 2014 and 2015 model years.

Harley says in documents that gas bubbles can cause the clutch master cylinder to lose its ability to fully disengage the clutch, especially if the bike has been parked for a long time. This could cause a rider to lose control of the motorcycle if it's started in gear.

Read MoreGM issues new recall affecting nearly 84,000 vehicles
The problem was found through customer complaints. Harley reported 27 crashes and four minor injuries. (Tweet This)

Dealers will flush the clutch and rebuild the master cylinder. The recall was to start April 23.

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I almost became crash umber 28 and potentially injury number 5. I survived the experience because I'm in the habit of applying the front brake when I shift into the first gear otherwise the the way the bike slammed into first I would have been thrown off of it.

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Re: Lost hydraulic pressure on clutch - clutch recall
« Reply #124 on: April 24, 2015, 03:19:27 PM »

http://www.channel3000.com/money/harley-recalls-nearly-46000-motorcycles/32551034

"Harley says in documents that gas bubbles can cause the clutch master cylinder to lose its ability to fully disengage the clutch."

Pretty odd description of the problem... 
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Re: Lost hydraulic pressure on clutch - clutch recall
« Reply #125 on: April 24, 2015, 03:23:02 PM »

And where do these "gas bubbles" come from, one might ask.  Of course an answer wouldn't be forthcoming, since it might give the plaintiff attorneys too much ammunition in future litigation. 

It's amazing that since making hydraulic clutches standard, something the rest of the industry did long ago, H-D can't seem to get such a simple system right.  As I've mentioned before, they don't start from scratch and actually invent anything, they just apply existing and often old tech to their new bikes.  Doesn't require a group of rocket scientists, so why do they always seem to have major problems?

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Re: Lost hydraulic pressure on clutch - clutch recall
« Reply #126 on: April 24, 2015, 03:33:38 PM »

I just checked my VIN and I don't have the recall (if the HD site is updated yet). I looked at the site Safercar.gov and they have a little more information around the manufacture dates.  It also has the HD recall number.

Manufacturer: Harley-Davidson Motor Company
 

SUMMARY:
Harley-Davidson Motor Company (Harley-Davidson) is recalling certain model year 2014-2015 Electra Glide Ultra Classic (FLHTCU), Electra Glide Ultra Classic - Twin Cooled (FLHTCU TC), Ultra Limited (FLHTK), Police Electra Glide (FLHTP), Street Glide (FLHX), Street Glide Special (FLHXS), CVO Street Glide (FLHXSE), 2015 Electra Glide Ultra Classic Low (FLHTCUL), Ultra Limited Low (FLHTKL), Electra Glide Ultra Classic Low - Twin Cooled (FLHTCUL TC), Road Glide Special (FLTRXS), Road Glide (FLTRX), and 2014 CVO Road King (FLHRSE) motorcycles manufactured April 28, 2014, to October 24, 2014. In the affected motorcycles, the clutch master cylinder may lose the ability to generate enough lift to disengage the clutch, especially if the motorcycle has been parked for an extended period of time.
CONSEQUENCE:
When the engine is running and the motorcycle is in gear, if the clutch cannot be fully disengaged, the motorcycle may move unexpectedly, increasing the risk of a crash.
REMEDY:
Harley-Davidson will notify owners, and dealers will flush the clutch system and rebuild the clutch master cylinder, free of charge. The recall is expected to begin April 23, 2015. Owners may contact Harley-Davidson customer service at 1-800-258-2464. Harley-Davidson's number for this recall is 0165.
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Re: Lost hydraulic pressure on clutch - clutch recall
« Reply #127 on: April 24, 2015, 03:47:07 PM »

I thought the bubbles in the fluid thing was an older issue where the clutch fluid line was routed too close to the exhaust and the fluid was boiling intorducing bubbles from the boil????? :nixweiss:

Some folks on this site put an insulation sock or sleeve over the line to keep things in order??

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Re: Lost hydraulic pressure on clutch - clutch recall
« Reply #128 on: April 24, 2015, 05:05:46 PM »

Call it what it is: a cover story.
They've found some reason to replace/rebuild the master cylinder and the fluid.
They've used this description but it doesn't matter.
Who knows? It might be that they've just discovered that they used the wrong fluid or the wrong seal material or a wrong method on install.
What really matters is if their action will fix the problem or not.
It certainly doesn't "fit" exactly with what Cam was told was done to his bike.
But it might be that the recall procedure actually fixes his clutch.
If it does, then we can be happy for Cam that it's fixed and we will also know that the dealer hasn't been completely accurate in the description of his "repairs" to this point.
I'm glad the MoCo has at least publically admitted there is an issue with the clutch and now the dealers can stop pretending there's nothing wrong.

This is a WIN for Cam and for us all.
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Re: Lost hydraulic pressure on clutch - clutch recall
« Reply #129 on: April 24, 2015, 05:14:23 PM »

Call it what it is: a cover story.
They've found some reason to replace/rebuild the master cylinder and the fluid.
They've used this description but it doesn't matter.
Who knows? It might be that they've just discovered that they used the wrong fluid or the wrong seal material or a wrong method on install.
What really matters is if their action will fix the problem or not.
It certainly doesn't "fit" exactly with what Cam was told was done to his bike.
But it might be that the recall procedure actually fixes his clutch.
If it does, then we can be happy for Cam that it's fixed and we will also know that the dealer hasn't been completely accurate in the description of his "repairs" to this point.
I'm glad the MoCo has at least publically admitted there is an issue with the clutch and now the dealers can stop pretending there's nothing wrong.

This is a WIN for Cam and for us all.
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Re: Lost hydraulic pressure on clutch - clutch recall
« Reply #130 on: April 24, 2015, 07:05:11 PM »

I just had the recall done on my 2014 for the clutch recall of last August.

This is new

http://www.latimes.com/business/autos/la-fi-hy-harley-davidson-recall-20150424-story.html

It is on Foxnews as well.

Now with the info on manafacturing date, it looks like the new recall will be done in addition to the last recall 159.  I just had that done two weeks ago!   DOH!
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Re: Lost hydraulic pressure on clutch - clutch recall
« Reply #131 on: April 24, 2015, 10:30:18 PM »

I checked the invoice from New Orleans Harley where they put a new master cylinder on my 2013 and the part number is different than the part numbers in this latest recall. Apparently they changed something on the master cylinders starting in 2014. As far as the rest of my story Barnett received the faulty pressure plate and shipped a new one to Hammond Harley on Wednesday. I figure it should be there early next week.
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Re: Lost hydraulic pressure on clutch - clutch recall
« Reply #133 on: April 25, 2015, 01:06:16 AM »

Not to sound like a smart ass, but isn't this old news? I had mine done last summer after HD mailed the recall out. Or is this already a NEW recall for last year's recall??
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Re: Lost hydraulic pressure on clutch - clutch recall
« Reply #134 on: April 25, 2015, 03:28:05 AM »

It certainly looks like a new press release


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