Awesome guys thanks, the lifter that failed looks good on the out side,we think 2 roller pins were gone I'll have to get the oil jets checked l didn't know that they were fed from the lifter feed,( this info you don't get from the dealer ) . The mechanic seems happy to flush the system, new cams,cam bearings, lifters, ahh cam plate is that needed ? But to get the full warranty they would like to rebuild the motor. Well I cannot afford that so we'll go for the she'll be right mate, as bad as it sounds. The dealer only wants to use oem parts so I should go screamin eagle lifters,the cams second hand dealers not interested. They have my bike I'm a bit bound by what they want but confident they will see me right. More so when I have the knowledge from the forum people. Fingers crossed. Will keep you informed