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[Kingspoke]

I'm hoping someone has dyno comparison between a stock 110ci with the SE 255's swapped out with the SE 585's.  I'm considering this move but I would like to see a comparison before doing so.  Any help would be appreciated, if you could point me to an actual dyno graph (not the Harley Davidson cam comparison chart).

I specifically looking at these two cams (I know there are many other options, including 117 kit).

[Mr D]

I'm hoping someone has dyno comparison between a stock 110ci with the SE 255's swapped out with the SE 585's.  I'm considering this move but I would like to see a comparison before doing so.  Any help would be appreciated, if you could point me to an actual dyno graph (not the Harley Davidson cam comparison chart).

I specifically looking at these two cams (I know there are many other options, including 117 kit).

I don't have a graph, but I do know "bolting" in the 585 in lieu of the 255 you will not be happy, the 585 needs 10.5 squish to really shine.

[Kingspoke]

I don't have a graph, but I do know "bolting" in the 585 in lieu of the 255 you will not be happy, the 585 needs 10.5 squish to really shine.

You're probably correct, though I could not find anything specifically stating you need more compression,on the HD site, I see that their Stage 3, 110ci (utilizing the SE 585) kit makes 10.2-1 compression.

Then in a 585 discussion, you get comments like this:

[HD Street Performance]

I had the SE585 in my own stock 110 for a little bit and the intake noise annoyed me so I changed to an Andrews 54. Hit all the boxes for me, may not be others cup of tea.
I sold the SE585 to another and this is the result with my headwork and a compression bump to 10.5 (I was wrong it did work fine).
Less than a savory tune but still shows the potential.

[North Star]

Wow Don that is a supet flat torque line (cant even call ita curve) 

Im sure a big part of the success of that build was your headwork. Not sureif the OP is going that far.

[Kingspoke]

I had the SE585 in my own stock 110 for a little bit and the intake noise annoyed me so I changed to an Andrews 54. Hit all the boxes for me, may not be others cup of tea.
I sold the SE585 to another and this is the result with my headwork and a compression bump to 10.5 (I was wrong it did work fine).
Less than a savory tune but still shows the potential.

Thanks for this clarification and great results with your headwork and comp!

[Kingspoke]

Wow Don that is a supet flat torque line (cant even call ita curve) 

Im sure a big part of the success of that build was your headwork. Not sureif the OP is going that far.

True, I wanted a simple bolt on resolution, and seems like Mr. D is right on the money.  I think, I'll pass on installing these cams for now.  I really didn't want to go pass a simple cam install, as I'm actually pretty happy with stock performance.

I thought I would try to shore up the weak points on the motor such as pushrods, lifters, and if I was going to replace the inner cam bearing (as many suggested on other threads ,pre-13 CVO cam bearing upgrade), I would venture to find a better bolt in, with low end torque on par with the SE 255, but perhaps carry it out a little farther.

[Kingspoke]

1) I'm definitely going to replace the lifters and push rods, at first opportunity (next week).

2) Would you suggest that I hold off on the inner cam bearing, until I resolve what cam to replace the SE 255 or would you replace the inner cam bearings, anyway pending further research further for a cam?

Just looking for some thoughts/direction here!  Thanks all!

[Kingspoke]

I guess I'm answering my own question!   I'll just stick with 255's, change the cam bearings, and sell the SE 585's!

[HD Street Performance]

  Sounds like a move forward

[Kingspoke]

  Sounds like a move forward

Thanks, I appreciate the information!  Hopefully not a moment late.  One of my lifters on the front cylinder, seemed to be making too much noise today riding in this hot weather.

[North Star]

You might want to research the TTS 100 cam. It is basically an improved version of the SE255 with tons of low end torque.

Oh yeah, and I have a used set for sale in the classifieds- only has 2,000 miles on them. Took it out as I did a 113 build.

[snowrider13]

True, I wanted a simple bolt on resolution, and seems like Mr. D is right on the money.  I think, I'll pass on installing these cams for now.  I really didn't want to go pass a simple cam install, as I'm actually pretty happy with stock performance.

I thought I would try to shore up the weak points on the motor such as pushrods, lifters, and if I was going to replace the inner cam bearing (as many suggested on other threads ,pre-13 CVO cam bearing upgrade), I would venture to find a better bolt in, with low end torque on par with the SE 255, but perhaps carry it out a little farther.If you like the 255's (I did) try the Andrews 48. Did everything the 255 did and carried out farther on the TQ and HP. I have a post on this site with dyno charts.

[snowrider13]

Something went wrong with my last post. My reply went in with the OP's quote. Sorry about that.

[Kingspoke]

You might want to research the TTS 100 cam. It is basically an improved version of the SE255 with tons of low end torque.

Oh yeah, and I have a used set for sale in the classifieds- only has 2,000 miles on them. Took it out as I did a 113 build.

Thanks!  Yeah I looked at that cam, but no interested in that one.  Beautiful bike, by the way.  I think Harley nailed with the paint and scheme of the 09 CVO Road Glides!