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[Grizzly]

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-08-18/u-s-sues-harley-for-selling-emission-control-defeat-devices

[Mr. Warlock]

Perhaps the end result of this action will be the MOCO will now have to start selling motorcycles which will no longer requiring tuning devices to correct their extreme lean, hot running condition in stock configuration!  (a guy can hope!)

What I think this really means is that we will be stuck with the extreme lean and hot running machines with no way to fix. Especially if they scare TTS and others away.

[BigLew55]

I just called Fuel Moto and ordered my Power Vision!

[tysndys]

This would have to put a wrench in the wheel of all the hop up kits Harley sells. What good is a 117 kit if you can't tune it? As mentioned the after market guys are in the crosshairs now. Gotta love those non elected bureaucrats running things.

[wtfdskin]

They did the same thing for us diesel pickup guys. EPA dropped the hammer on edge, smarty, h & s and a host of other tuner manufacturers

Guess I better grab mine quick before the price doubles.

[4fun]

Sounds like another money grab, 12 million to the government and 3 for the environmental mitigation.  Why not have it all go to the mitigation if it was so bad!

Oh I forgot, we need to keep the beuracrats employed!

[HarleyJeffOregon]

Sounds like another money grab, 12 million to the government and 3 for the environmental mitigation.  Why not have it all go to the mitigation if it was so bad!

Oh I forgot, we need to keep the beuracrats employed!

No kidding!

[SSTuner]

Oh boy,

http://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news/harley-davidson-to-pay-dollar12-mln-fine-over-motorcycle-emissions/ar-BBvMpem?li=BBnbfcL&ocid=UP97DHP

[bigchuck]

I have one they can buy back

[tysndys]

Interesting concept, buy them back. Damage is done your ecm has been modified. What am I missing? No way they will take back used ones? As well now "the man" knows which bikes no longer meet epa rules.

[danner55]

They can buy mine back!

 I have the TTS now!

[Magnut1]

I have a Thundermax,  they will have to pry it from my cold, dead, wiring harness!

[kojak]

http://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news/harley-davidson-to-pay-dollar12-mln-fine-over-motorcycle-emissions/ar-BBvMpem?li=BBnbfcL

[Pan1]

I am sure this settlement has been in the works for a long time. The timing of the 23rd is so the moco can sell out the majority of the 2016s before the change to the new engine platform. The dealers are the ones really hurt as they will have to tune with aftermarket parts and they can't offer the hp upgrade options on new bikes.

[TN]

Funny on the timing here, with HD coming out with new electronics and such (rumored to be bosch on the 2017). Some HD shops refuse to work on bikes 10 yrs old now.
A new area in proprietary parts.


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