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[MrSurly]

I'm seriously impressed by the roof performance on that Jeep. The roll cage must be built right.

[FLSTFI Dave]

One odd thing I noticed is that while riding, I pressed the "Information" switch that displays the ambient temperature and oil pressure...... temp said 87 but the oil pressure just said "OK" instead of the actual oil pressure???

Yea, I really dislike that change.  I really liked seeing the oil pressure.  OK is useless, no information.

[ultrarider123]

Yea, I really dislike that change.  I really liked seeing the oil pressure.  OK is useless, no information.

I'm with you guys.  How hard is it to post a pressure reading?  If they are cutting costs, they still have to have the sensors in place to keep an eye on the pressure, right?  What did "OK" save them?  They would have been better off with:

Oil Pressure:  Yep

Or...

Oil Pressure:  Who needs to know?

[Mr. Warlock]

I'm with you guys.  How hard is it to post a pressure reading?  If they are cutting costs, they still have to have the sensors in place to keep an eye on the pressure, right?  What did "OK" save them?  They would have been better off with:

Oil Pressure:  Yep

Or...

Oil Pressure:  Who needs to know?

OR,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, "WE DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW"

[hdbrad03]

I asked my Dealer it stops the the people from seeing real pressure and causing unnecessary shoppings. It's only has idiot sensor so pressure has to be below set limit to not be ok. Like the Roadkings and others have been for decades.

  :banana rock:

   Brad

[grc]

Don't need no steenkin' oil pressure readings.  Trust us, have we ever steered you wrong?

Jerry

[muddypaws]

Jerry that's funny....

[MrSurly]

A service writer told me a conflict he had with a customer: The complaint was that the customer's  new car showed 28 PSI of oil pressure at idle and 55 PSI at 70 mph... The guy's neighbor happened to have a near identical car that was a year old. The neighbor's car had 35 PSI at idle and 61 PSI at 70. The customer was PISSED that his new car "showed to be worn out already".  The Service writer told me "And that, my friends is why they don't put numbers on 'em, anymore.

[Dan_Lockwood]

When I was service manager at a Chevy Pontiac dealership back in the mid '70s to the mid '80s, lots of cars had idiot lights.

The oil pressure light was usually set at around 6 to 7 psi.  It was assumed that 10 psi would be a safe idle oil pressure.

Anywhere above 30 psi while driving was also considered good.

This reminds me when I was a lot younger and my parents and I had a marina in mid MI area.  Starting in the late '60s we sold snowmobiles.  Most of them had no speedometer.  It was funny to listen to the bragging that went on in bars.  One guy would say that his buddy clocked him with his car while he was running down on the snow at 70 mph.  And the bragging just continued.

Then speedometers became available as add-ons.  It's funny because the guy that could do 70 could only get 45 mph out of his sled.  This brought MANY complaints because all of a sudden their sleds were not running like they did before the speedometer was installed.

Another screwing with the neighbors, I think it was in Parenthood with Steve Martin, he had a neighbor that bragged about how good of gas mileage he got with his new car.  So he and his boy went over at night and added of gas to his tank without him knowing it.  They did this for a week or so as I remember.  The neighbor just raved about his GREAT mileage.  Then the next week they sucked out gas at night and the neighbor was at the dealership complaining about losing all the mpg that he had been getting.  That's one way to screw with your neighbor...

[iski]

When I was service manager at a Chevy Pontiac dealership back in the mid '70s to the mid '80s, lots of cars had idiot lights.

The oil pressure light was usually set at around 6 to 7 psi.  It was assumed that 10 psi would be a safe idle oil pressure.

Anywhere above 30 psi while driving was also considered good.

This reminds me when I was a lot younger and my parents and I had a marina in mid MI area.  Starting in the late '60s we sold snowmobiles.  Most of them had no speedometer.  It was funny to listen to the bragging that went on in bars.  One guy would say that his buddy clocked him with his car while he was running down on the snow at 70 mph.  And the bragging just continued.

Then speedometers became available as add-ons.  It's funny because the guy that could do 70 could only get 45 mph out of his sled.  This brought MANY complaints because all of a sudden their sleds were not running like they did before the speedometer was installed.

Another screwing with the neighbors, I think it was in Parenthood with Steve Martin, he had a neighbor that bragged about how good of gas mileage he got with his new car.  So he and his boy went over at night and added of gas to his tank without him knowing it.  They did this for a week or so as I remember.  The neighbor just raved about his GREAT mileage.  Then the next week they sucked out gas at night and the neighbor was at the dealership complaining about losing all the mpg that he had been getting.  That's one way to screw with your neighbor...

Spinal Tap had amps that went to "11".

[Twolanerider]

A service writer told me a conflict he had with a customer: The complaint was that the customer's  new car showed 28 PSI of oil pressure at idle and 55 PSI at 70 mph... The guy's neighbor happened to have a near identical car that was a year old. The neighbor's car had 35 PSI at idle and 61 PSI at 70. The customer was PISSED that his new car "showed to be worn out already".  The Service writer told me "And that, my friends is why they don't put numbers on 'em, anymore.

Can still remember when I was a kid working in a gas station and had a shop later just hating to hear when some of the customers would want a set of Stewart Warner or some other gauges mounted.  For way too many the numbers were just something to worry about that they weren't even close to understanding.  Still remember like it was yesterday the guy who (seriously) asked me why his "oil psi's accelerated faster than his volts."   

[skratch]

yeah, I got one that's even better.  when I was going to school for auto mechs, we would take in 'customer' vehicles to do work on them.  one woman brought her car in and wanted a front end alignment (okay, no issue) and her valve stems in her tires lined up so they would be in the same position all the way around. 

[sadunbar]

Can still remember when I was a kid working in a gas station and had a shop later just hating to hear when some of the customers would want a set of Stewart Warner or some other gauges mounted.  For way too many the numbers were just something to worry about that they weren't even close to understanding.  Still remember like it was yesterday the guy who (seriously) asked me why his "oil psi's accelerated faster than his volts."  

You're going to throw that out there and then not tell us why???  WTH??   

[Twolanerider]

yeah, I got one that's even better.  when I was going to school for auto mechs, we would take in 'customer' vehicles to do work on them.  one woman brought her car in and wanted a front end alignment (okay, no issue) and her valve stems in her tires lined up so they would be in the same position all the way around.

Ok.  I had one who just demanded having the beads broken so he could from summer to winter air in the tires.  Not kidding....

[iski]

Sometimes if a car needed power steering fluid we would tell the driver the car was low on blinker fluid and charge them a dollar.  Full service station. Re-run oil was $.33 a quart, sold a lot of it.