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[ultrafxr]

Jerry, I understand the situation and the route you chose. My 110" is bone stock except for the S&S lifters and inner cam bearings I installed at 36k, I was under esp at that time but decided to be proactive, still no guarantee. I recouped some of my monies back from esp purchase. I'm self insured on my bike now.

I'm glad you have a dealer that works with you and wish you luck in the future endeavors with HD products. 

Sincerely

TN

Thanks man.  Hoping the dealer will work with me whatever I decide. 

[Robmay]

Well yeah, I hear you and i thought about changing them - then I thought again.  Here's what I mean:  To keep my ESP I'd need to stay stock.  Of course I could change to the H-D SE lifters but I hoped that is what this motor already had since it was a replacement itself and just after the time they had a running change in production from the C lifters to the SE.  Once they tear it down we'll see I guess.

And what about pushrods?  If I went with adjustables (even H-Ds) could ESP point that that as a cause of future failure.  So to be safe probably need to stick with stock one piece prushrods and the extra labor that enatils.  So to change out lifters, probably inner cam bearings with labor would be pushing $1k.  Now I paid good money (and quite a bit of it) for the ESP so why should I spend my money doing their work?  That at least was my cheap azz thinking.  Chit if it fails let them pay to fix it.  I mean that's why I bought the ESP, right!

I concur. Hope it gets worked out right and soon!

[FlaHeatWave]

Well yeah, I hear you and i thought about changing them - then I thought again.  Here's what I mean:  To keep my ESP I'd need to stay stock.  Of course I could change to the H-D SE lifters but I hoped that is what this motor already had since it was a replacement itself and just after the time they had a running change in production from the C lifters to the SE.  Once they tear it down we'll see I guess.

And what about pushrods?  If I went with adjustables (even H-Ds) could ESP point that that as a cause of future failure.  So to be safe probably need to stick with stock one piece prushrods and the extra labor that enatils.  So to change out lifters, probably inner cam bearings with labor would be pushing $1k.  Now I paid good money (and quite a bit of it) for the ESP so why should I spend my money doing their work?  That at least was my cheap azz thinking.  Chit if it fails let them pay to fix it.  I mean that's why I bought the ESP, right!

A few years back when my Dealer had to do some ESP work in the Cam Chest of the '05, they asked me if they could put in the SE Adjustable Push Rods (at no charge to me) since it was a wash cost wise to the Dealer on the first time and they would more than make up for it $$ on subsequent visits to the Cam Chest...

 'Don't recall if I ever had to pay for the Inner Cam Bearings ($20-25) but I'm sure that I never had to pay labor$$...

Depending how long that I was going to keep the Bike and / or ESP intact, helped me make the decision whether to let them fix it their way or my way...

My Dealer was of the mindset, "don't pay for upgrades (lifters etc...) above what ESP will pay for, if it fails again, let ESP fix it"

[FLTRCVO]

Beautiful sunny day, temps moderating, perfect for a 300+ mile ride through the countryside with a couple of my buds and our wives.  Just about 100 miles from home coming in to a small town I was in 4th gear doing the limit of 45mph with cruise on when bike slowed.  I looked down and noticed that my cruise had dropped out.  Strange?  So I downshifted and accelerated shifting back up to 4th.  Everything seemed OK but not quite right if you know what I mean.  Two lane road with no shoulder so couldn't stop for about a half mile in town at stop sign.  Motor idled erratically then died.  Shell station right there on the corner so I fired it up and pulled in.  Hadn't heard any noises but I had ear plugs in and the radio on.  So took off my helmet and removed ear plugs as did my friends and we fired it up.  Sounded like a nest of baby robins when mama comes home with a big fat juicy worm.  Uh oh, that sure sounds like lifter problem so I shut it right down.  Four and a half hours later my friend has gone back home gotten his trailer and come back for me.  Made it to the dealer an hour before closing and wrote it all up.  But they are slammed in service - probably about two weeks to get it on a lift table but they will see what they can do.  I said probably not more than a couple hours at most to check out cam chest area and see if my suspicions are correct so see if you can't work it in.

This does not sound good.  Think I'll change my screen name to Quattro Destroyer as this is the fourth 110 motor I've blown up, lol. Thank goodness I do have ESP.  Hope it will all work out to my satisfaction.

Just my 2 cents; my bike just went down felt like it was running on one cylinder; knew it was bad rode it to the dealer opened it up lifter exploded down in the engine case tore up the case flywheel etc.. still ride-able, but a little louder than usual.

[ultrafxr]

Just my 2 cents; my bike just went down felt like it was running on one cylinder; knew it was bad rode it to the dealer opened it up lifter exploded down in the engine case tore up the case flywheel etc.. still ride-able, but a little louder than usual.

Sorry you're having similar problems.  Let's hope they get us back on the road soon.

[FLTRCVO]

Sorry you're having similar problems.  Let's hope they get us back on the road soon.

Jerry, thank you for your concern, I'm pretty lucky to have 3 dealerships in the immediate area with no less than 8 techs at each location. Now the wait for ESP to inspect the damage and give the approval for the complete and total rebuild motor rebuild with an engine half case.

[Scott7d]

4th motor?!?! I respect your patience!!! I would have flipped out to the point where authorities may have needed to escort me out of the dealership.

[ultrafxr]

4th motor?!?! I respect your patience!!! I would have flipped out to the point where authorities may have needed to escort me out of the dealership.

4th motor, two bikes - two replacement motors each.  I'm beginning to think these 110s are snake bit, lol.