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Re: GPX file is a GPX file....I thought
« Reply #15 on: February 04, 2017, 12:19:48 PM »

OK, played with this for the last two days. It is full of awesome tools and options. However, I am disappointed a bit. The main reason I hate HD ride planner is that when you adjust your route, it drops in a waypoint. That makes following the route on the bike difficult as you now have many "stops" added to your route. Google Maps does not add a waypoint if you adjust the route. Tyre uses Google maps, so just confused as why Tyre adds the waypoints like HD Ride planner and does not act like Google Maps even though it used Google Maps.

It's only using Google for the maps, as they are pretty much the de facto standard for maps around the world.  Remember that Tyre is a European product.  I doubt they have anything better than Google in about 2/3rds of the world.
Waypoints are not true "stops" in the sense of the word, but are really only points you designate on a map that the software interprets as longitude/latitude coordinates that the map software then uses to plot routes with.  Those points force the route to your liking.  They become the invisible points that you drive through, and are also therefore designed to keep you "on track". 
Also remember that just as you can move a waypoint, you can also delete an undesirable one.
Also remember that everything Google does is not necessarily the best way.  Google maps is mapping first, and not primarily a GPX creating program.  I wish their terrain feature was better...much better.  I also wish they'd get rid of the washed out colors of the maps so you could see the streets and highways better.  I find myself going to the satellite view just to see the actual roads.  I do love the street view feature, but there are a lot of things that are lacking with Google Maps.  Just as there will be with any software applications.
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Re: GPX file is a GPX file....I thought
« Reply #16 on: February 05, 2017, 05:32:39 PM »

I have used google and gpsvisualizer many times and it has always worked
for me planed many trips with it. How are you importing it.

14CVOultra,
Can you give me some clues as to what you are doing with the visualizer? I have played with it for a few days now and the route can never get imported to my Boom Audio system. I have created routes and converted them. I have added waypoints in Google, made several changes to the GPS Visualizer settings and nothing has worked. I have renamed them, left name alone and still no luck in getting the Boom Audio to import the file in the the GPS.

I called HD and spoke to the Boom Audio guys and gave them the visualizer web page, they were going to play with it and get back to me. No call back yet. I just can't understand why you got the conversion to work and I cant.

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Re: GPX file is a GPX file....I thought
« Reply #17 on: February 09, 2017, 10:09:50 AM »

Been following this thread to see where it went.  As typical with the Ride Planner, it leaves owners with a LOT to be desired.
If you're looking for full featured, free GPS software that uses Google Maps, and does a fine job, check this site out:  http://www.tyretotravel.com/
Several of us who will be attending the Eureka Springs Get Together are using it now instead of Ride Planner, and I for one couldn't be happier.

Hey RGlide kid,
Seems like u use Tyre often. So I planned a route adding three HD dealers by adding the address in the yellow box. I then "add to itinerary", so I now have in the itinerary box all of my stops. I cannot figure out how to start that route so I can adjust it to my liking (IE, dragging route to non highways)

Any help on this?

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Re: GPX file is a GPX file....I thought
« Reply #18 on: February 09, 2017, 10:51:48 AM »

Glen

If you send me a small route that you ran thru visualizer I will check it out.
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Re: GPX file is a GPX file....I thought
« Reply #19 on: February 09, 2017, 11:25:45 AM »

Send it to me as well, please!
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Re: GPX file is a GPX file....I thought
« Reply #20 on: February 09, 2017, 12:57:02 PM »

Well I just did some testing and it appears that this update has changed something with the Import of the file from visualizer.
 I built a small route in google maps ran it thru visualizer under advanced settings  set Remove all tracks to yes before you convert the file the reason for this is is because Google maps uses many many track points and the file will not load in the info system.  Copy the converted file to thumb drive and import the named file into the bike. Now what has changed is that all the times I have done this before today the file always ended up listed under TRIPS. Now it is being Imported into the Saved folder but it did work. So Glen take a look in the saved folder and see if any of the routes imported are there.

Note to Harry
I Imported 2 of your route files to test them ES tour and Wallmart run they imported into the TRIPS folder and look good when I viewed them.
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Re: GPX file is a GPX file....I thought
« Reply #21 on: February 09, 2017, 01:00:10 PM »


Note to Harry
I Imported 2 of your route files to test them ES tour and Wallmart run they imported into the TRIPS folder and look good when I viewed them.

That's good to know, Chuck.  Thanks.
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Re: GPX file is a GPX file....I thought
« Reply #22 on: February 09, 2017, 01:08:55 PM »

Well I just did some testing and it appears that this update has changed something with the Import of the file from visualizer.
 I built a small route in google maps ran it thru visualizer under advanced settings  set Remove all tracks to yes before you convert the file the reason for this is is because Google maps uses many many track points and the file will not load in the info system.  Copy the converted file to thumb drive and import the named file into the bike. Now what has changed is that all the times I have done this before today the file always ended up listed under TRIPS. Now it is being Imported into the Saved folder but it did work. So Glen take a look in the saved folder and see if any of the routes imported are there.

Note to Harry
I Imported 2 of your route files to test them ES tour and Wallmart run they imported into the TRIPS folder and look good when I viewed them.

I have looked in there, but will try again using the settings you recommended.

I did recognize this: There are 9 or 10 routs in my "saved" folder on the bike that I cannot delete. All were added by me at some point from the "import" function, one is duplicated 9 times in the folder on the bike. When I delete a saved ride that I saved using the bike, there is a trash can symbol between the up and down buttons on the right side, with the files I cant delete, there is a number in the spot where the garbage can should be, that number is the times that the same ride is in the "Saved" folder. I have even tried to "export" these rides back to my USB stick, no luck.

Also, these routes, when chosen, do nothing. I am thinking these were routes I created using the Visualizer, but not with the settings you recommended. Wonder how I can delete them?

Maybe I should start a different thread?  :orange:
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Re: GPX file is a GPX file....I thought
« Reply #23 on: February 09, 2017, 01:36:44 PM »

You made routes that had waypoints which were incorrectly added. Each waypoint needs a name and under notes should list an address. If not they can't be deleted. Early on we did factory resets to remove them.

Also I like Garmin BaseCamp for route planning. Haven't used the other one listed from Europe but BaseCamp is better than Harley website

Thing to remember is you don't actually import the roads selected to the infomation gps. Your gpx file contains points which are used by infomation gps to route its own trip. More waypoints, more likely it stays to your route
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Re: GPX file is a GPX file....I thought
« Reply #24 on: February 09, 2017, 01:38:25 PM »

I think if you select the file then the trash can will come up. If not the only way to remove them is to do a factory reset. The way it used to be was that the only time I had anything go to the saved folder was when I selected all on the import But I guess it don't work that way any more

This is how you do a  reset  you will lose all your settings and you want to do the last one

This is out of the 2014 Touring electrial diagnostic manual. Maybe try this? To enter the service menu:
1. Turn IGN OFF. Wait 15 seconds.
2. Press and hold power/mute button. Turn IGN? to ACC.
3. Continue to press power button for 2 seconds after the WARNING screen is displayed.
4. Release power/mute button and accept warning.

The service menu may display Diag Service not Availiable when a menu option is initially selected. This message will clear once the system has finished performing the power-on process.

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Reset:
Pre-calibration reset: Restores fatory default settings. This is recommended when there are radio symptoms and no DTCs*
Post calibration save: Archives customers settings so that they can be restored after a Post calibration Reset.
Post calibration reset: Resets the radio to factory default settings and restores the last archive data stored during Post calibration Save.
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« Reply #25 on: February 09, 2017, 01:42:26 PM »

Also BaseCamp uses free software from Garmin site BUT a basic map, unless you have an old GPS unit to plug into computer. Then you can share the map off GPS to the BaseCamp program and have more detailed roads. The maps can be switched back and forth by changing the DETAIL LEVEL setting or MAP file. I usually use the most detailed map but change the level at times to pick a long distance route, then detail to higher or highest setting for hitting an exact backroad or business.

BaseCamp can be weak at locating items too. Search feature is not so good
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Re: GPX file is a GPX file....I thought
« Reply #26 on: February 09, 2017, 02:54:09 PM »

I would invite all of you to check out this new thread on GPX file development  that I've started and tell me your thoughts on the subject...

https://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=111037.new#new
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Re: GPX file is a GPX file....I thought
« Reply #27 on: February 10, 2017, 09:50:56 PM »

Been following this thread to see where it went.  As typical with the Ride Planner, it leaves owners with a LOT to be desired.
If you're looking for full featured, free GPS software that uses Google Maps, and does a fine job, check this site out:  http://www.tyretotravel.com/
Several of us who will be attending the Eureka Springs Get Together are using it now instead of Ride Planner, and I for one couldn't be happier.


While checking out tyretotravel I noticed.  MyRoute-app.  Going to try it in the bike tomorrow.  Anyone have any advise on this app


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Re: GPX file is a GPX file....I thought
« Reply #28 on: February 10, 2017, 10:03:49 PM »


While checking out tyretotravel I noticed.  MyRoute-app.  Going to try it in the bike tomorrow.  Anyone have any advise on this app


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myrouteapp is the "newer" version of Tyre.  There are several of us on the forum who are using it now.  Unlike the HD Ride Planner, there are a lot of help files and a blog on-line to help you along.  Just get in there and start making a route.  It's easier than you might think.
Make another post when you get into it if you start having issues or PM me.  In the meantime, check out my threads on GPX files.
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Re: GPX file is a GPX file....I thought
« Reply #29 on: February 19, 2017, 04:42:44 PM »

Well I just did some testing and it appears that this update has changed something with the Import of the file from visualizer.
 I built a small route in google maps ran it thru visualizer under advanced settings  set Remove all tracks to yes before you convert the file the reason for this is is because Google maps uses many many track points and the file will not load in the info system.  Copy the converted file to thumb drive and import the named file into the bike. Now what has changed is that all the times I have done this before today the file always ended up listed under TRIPS. Now it is being Imported into the Saved folder but it did work. So Glen take a look in the saved folder and see if any of the routes imported are there.

Note to Harry
I Imported 2 of your route files to test them ES tour and Wallmart run they imported into the TRIPS folder and look good when I viewed them.

It took me some time to test your recommendations. I made the changes as you suggested. Route shows up on USB stick in BB, I am able to import it, but then I have two choices-"Select all" or "Clear all" No rote is able to be imported.

There are too many setting in the visualizer for me to play with them all to see why I cannot use the GPS Visualizer and why BB cannot import a file after I have converted it. I am done trying as I now have 10 routes in my "saved" file that I cannot delete and cannot open to follow. I guess I am going to try and lear Tryre or use the crappy HD Ride Planner.

Thanks for the help though!
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