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Saddlebag Question
« on: July 21, 2017, 02:35:51 PM »

Will the Rushmore single lever saddlebags fit pre-Rushmore bikes?

I was wondering about my '09 SERG if Rushmore bags would use the same lower mounting rail and have a similar back two pin alignment?

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Re: Saddlebag Question
« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2017, 03:05:37 PM »

You have to adjust the front bracket about half an inch from what I've read. Everything else is good.

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Re: Saddlebag Question
« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2017, 03:22:42 PM »

The big difference is the two attachment bolts inside the saddlebag.  The older ones are 1/4-turn twist bolts and the new ones are full screw-in bolts.  You might have to make some adjustments with the rubber grommets that the bolts pass through if you wanted to use the old-style.  There are kits pretty cheap if you wanted to change to the new style mounting bolts.   
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Re: Saddlebag Question
« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2017, 05:16:23 PM »

I've done the switch over of the mounting screws from the quarter turn pins. the grommet holes on the bags are the same, the kit costs $50 and is worth a million bucks. No one is going to steal the bags and they won't come loose and pass you up as they slide on the pavement.
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Re: Saddlebag Question
« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2017, 09:28:59 PM »

The big difference is the two attachment bolts inside the saddlebag.  The older ones are 1/4-turn twist bolts and the new ones are full screw-in bolts.  You might have to make some adjustments with the rubber grommets that the bolts pass through if you wanted to use the old-style.  There are kits pretty cheap if you wanted to change to the new style mounting bolts.   
Up until this model year , '17, they still had the twist pins. My '15 came with them and I promptly changed those out to something more secure

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Re: Saddlebag Question
« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2017, 07:39:21 AM »

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"and they won't come loose and pass you up as they slide on the pavement."

yeah,  I've heard stories of that happening,  but I'm having a hard time understanding just how............I've had four different tour models......all with the quarter turn fasteners and never had a problem over the years with them coming loose.

Once you complete that quarter turn,  they just shouldn't pop loose :nixweiss:
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Re: Saddlebag Question
« Reply #6 on: July 22, 2017, 08:15:46 AM »

If I recall correctly it was a recall in 2014 to replace the 1/4 turn clips because the CVO bags came off.

I always switched to screws as soon as I got a new bike.
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Re: Saddlebag Question
« Reply #7 on: July 22, 2017, 09:22:26 AM »

Yep you're right, they shouldn't come loose but, it's happened to members here and I personally had a couple come loose. Mine stayed with the bike though.
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Re: Saddlebag Question
« Reply #8 on: July 22, 2017, 09:26:53 AM »

It also very easy to steal the bags with the spring clips. (With the bags looked). Takes a few seconds with a screw driver and they pop right off.
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Re: Saddlebag Question
« Reply #9 on: July 22, 2017, 05:28:05 PM »

You have to adjust the front bracket about half an inch from what I've read. Everything else is good.

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You heard correctly, the new style saddlebags will fit with only minor adjustments to the mounting points. I actually thought of doing this because I like the single latch release much better but then I  thought of the cost for more custom paint work to match the bags to the rest of the bike made me cringe.... So I'll just keep the originals.

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Re: Saddlebag Question
« Reply #10 on: July 22, 2017, 06:30:36 PM »

It also very easy to steal the bags with the spring clips. (With the bags looked). Takes a few seconds with a screw driver and they pop right off.

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Yeah,  I totally agree that the screw driver deal can pop off the (older) tour model bags,  but my 2014 S.G. Special,  has added a cover over the bag connectors behind the bags.............it would seem to me that this negates (stops........for those from rio linda)..........the quick ability to steal the bags. :nixweiss:
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Re: Saddlebag Question
« Reply #11 on: July 23, 2017, 12:08:33 PM »

Thanks for all of the information.

I did the bolt conversion on my '09 SERG after I lost my left bag and didn't know it was gone.  I found it, but it was pretty bad shape with scratches etc.

Instead of using 5/16" bolts and the sheet metal slid on nuts, I used what I had in my parts drawers, 3/8".  They kind of thread through grommets.  I have a big fender washer on the inside and just slightly crush the grommet and they stay very tight.

At $1725 to replace just the left side, but that was factory painted to match.  Maybe raw with speakers would be a nice upgrade and I'd just get them painted to match.  I could keep the originals to sell with the bike if I ever want to sell or trade in.

Thanks again.  I basically sounds like the newer bags will work with very minor tweaks, just what I wanted to know.
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Re: Saddlebag Question
« Reply #12 on: July 24, 2017, 07:57:07 AM »

Hi Guys, regarding saddlebag retention. When I first read about this issue a few years ago I was debating about changing to one of the bolt on kits that some of the guys were using. Instead I just use 4 zip ties on each side at the part where the saddlebag attaches to the bike. I can cut them off in a couple of seconds if I need to get my bags off and I still have the convenience of the twist and lock pins.  I keep extra ones in my saddle bags incase I am out of the area and need to remove bag. If the saddle bag is locked I figured the thieves would have to break into it to get at the bolts and ruin it anyways. I feel very secure with the zip ties. If anyone wants a picture I will be happy to add one. Can't really tell they are there. As my dear old Dad used to say " A lock cannot keep a thief out it will only keep an honest man honest" CAHDBIKER
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Re: Saddlebag Question
« Reply #13 on: July 24, 2017, 08:22:58 AM »

Hi Guys, regarding saddlebag retention. When I first read about this issue a few years ago I was debating about changing to one of the bolt on kits that some of the guys were using. Instead I just use 4 zip ties on each side at the part where the saddlebag attaches to the bike. I can cut them off in a couple of seconds if I need to get my bags off and I still have the convenience of the twist and lock pins.  I keep extra ones in my saddle bags incase I am out of the area and need to remove bag. If the saddle bag is locked I figured the thieves would have to break into it to get at the bolts and ruin it anyways. I feel very secure with the zip ties. If anyone wants a picture I will be happy to add one. Can't really tell they are there. As my dear old Dad used to say " A lock cannot keep a thief out it will only keep an honest man honest" CAHDBIKER

The only concern I would have with leaving in the 1/4 turn twist retaining pins is that when my bag let loose, the ends of the pins were both bent as they pulled away from the inner wire.  I my gut says that even with the cable ties, my bag would still have came loose.

In my mind, some type of a solid bolt/retainer is still the best approach.

Good luck and I hope your bags stay put for you.
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