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4 New Harleys for 2019-2020
« on: July 30, 2018, 07:39:06 AM »

https://www.harley-davidson.com/us/en/about-us/hd-news/2018/harley-davidson-accelerates-strategy-to-build-next-generation-of-riders-globally.html

From the article:

New Products
Leveraging its industry-leading design and strong manufacturing capabilities, Harley-Davidson plans to offer its most comprehensive lineup of motorcycles, competing in many of the largest and fastest growing segments with a full portfolio of motorcycles across a broad spectrum of price points, power sources, displacements, riding styles and global markets. Highlights include:

Extending the company’s leadership in heavyweight motorcycles by continuing to develop improved, more technologically-advanced Touring and Cruiser motorcycles that will keep existing Harley-Davidson riders engaged and riding longer.
Introducing a new modular 500cc to 1250cc middleweight platform of motorcycles that spans three distinct product spaces and four displacements, starting with the company’s first Adventure Touring motorcycle, the Harley-Davidson™ Pan America™ 1250, a 1250cc Custom model and a 975cc Streetfighter model, all of which are planned to launch beginning in 2020. Additional models to broaden coverage in these product spaces will follow through 2022.

Developing a more accessible, small-displacement (250cc to 500cc) motorcycle for Asia emerging markets through a planned strategic alliance with a manufacturer in Asia.  This new product and broader distribution is intended to fuel Harley-Davidson’s customer access and growth in India, one of the largest, fastest growing markets in the world, and other Asia markets.
Leading the electric motorcycle market by launching Harley-Davidson’s first electric motorcycle, LiveWire™, in 2019 -- the first in a broad, no-clutch “twist and go” portfolio of electric two-wheelers designed to establish the company as the leader in the electrification of the sport. LiveWire will be followed by additional models through 2022 to broaden the portfolio with lighter, smaller and even more accessible product options to inspire new riders with new ways to ride.

Pictures at link of the new models.


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Re: 3 New Harleys for 2019
« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2018, 07:47:31 AM »

The Streefighter and Custom look ok. May bring on the younger riders that they were hoping to get with the 500 and 750 but never seemed to materialize.
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Re: 4 New Harleys for 2019-2020
« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2018, 08:43:20 AM »


OK, so that's three down, ninety-seven to go on the claimed one hundred new models.  Need to step it up a bit.

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Re: 4 New Harleys for 2019-2020
« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2018, 08:51:46 AM »

HD probably looks at it like this:  Blacked out versions = new models.

A guess - since the blacked out models have been selling they might decide to try oranged out, blued out, greened out, yellowed out, red out, etc. versions.  100 new models would be only 10 "new" models in 10 xxx-out color schemes.

 :nixweiss:

If they decide to color match the tires to the color of the bike I will have to bite my lip until it bleeds in some future parking lots.   ;)
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Re: 4 New Harleys for 2019-2020
« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2018, 09:08:49 AM »

The Pan America looks interesting.
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Re: 4 New Harleys for 2019-2020
« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2018, 09:36:57 AM »

The Pan America looks interesting.

Agreed...

Nothing offered would make me run right out and purchase but, they aren't aiming these toward me.  The Pan American looks, to me, as the best seller of the bunch.  That is, if it holds together off road.

I don't want them to fail.  I hope their plan carries Harley-Davidson on in a positive way and brings more folks into riding.  I'm hoping that all the emphasis on dealer network stated in the article also included improved customer support/care... :2vrolijk_21:

We (me included) have a tendency to lean negative when it comes to the MoCo having lived through many of the past launches and then all the icebergs hit along the way.  We don't want them to fail, we just know it's very easy for them to do so.
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Re: 4 New Harleys for 2019-2020
« Reply #6 on: July 30, 2018, 09:48:55 AM »

JM2C:  Obviously these are aimed at younger riders, so it's nice to see the MoCo doing something besides revamping a Sportster.  I hope HD realizes the price-point needs to be in line with the rest of the market too.  Is anyone looking for an adventure bike or naked crotch-rocket going to pay more than what the rest of the market charges?  In other words, if the MoCo overprices these because "HD" is on the tank, I don't think the buyers will materialize.  Also, these two bikes are going to have to perform well against the competition - a few bad reviews from the motorcycle media can be devastating.  Lastly, lets hope the reliability is there - especially for the adventure bike.  No one wants to get in the middle of Alaska and have an engine sump.

Overall, kudos to the MoCo for branching out of their comfort zone and trying something new.  Time will tell.       
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Re: 4 New Harleys for 2019-2020
« Reply #7 on: July 30, 2018, 09:53:12 AM »

Well stated.  For a new brand to penetrate established markets you need to do something (something important) better than the other brands to have a significant impact.
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Re: 4 New Harleys for 2019-2020
« Reply #8 on: July 30, 2018, 10:32:35 AM »

When I started riding, early 70s, Harley had dirt bikes that were made in Italy if I recall correctly.  Group of guys I rode with were all on Japanese bikes.  Point is, HD had an entry level bike at that point in time for a market they have ignored for years.

Looks like HD is aiming at BMW & others in the Adventure Touring class.  It's a market they don't address now, should be interesting.  The one that I have the most interest in - not for purchase just curiosity - is the LiveWire.  Electric bikes have a lot of potential, especially for commuters who are looking to save money on transportation and parking space costs.   If HD can innovate in the electric market, that lineup could put them on a new track, and develop the younger rider market.  Would that sell lead sled big touring cruisers eventually?  Some no doubt.  At some point those long distance cruisers could also be electric if battery charging tech continues to improve.

Will wait & see, no reason to go blow smoke up the masses' asses yet, but it does look HD is looking seriously to the future.  Price points, reliability, comfort, performance, and comparisons to whatever else is out there on these new models will tell the tale as always of success/failure.  I wish them well on their endeavors to persevere.
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Re: 4 New Harleys for 2019-2020
« Reply #9 on: July 30, 2018, 11:26:05 AM »

Agreed...

Nothing offered would make me run right out and purchase but, they aren't aiming these toward me.  The Pan America looks, to me, as the best seller of the bunch.  That is, if it holds together off road.

I don't want them to fail.  I hope their plan carries Harley-Davidson on in a positive way and brings more folks into riding.  I'm hoping that all the emphasis on dealer network stated in the article also included improved customer support/care... :2vrolijk_21:

We (me included) have a tendency to lean negative when it comes to the MoCo having lived through many of the past launches and then all the icebergs hit along the way.  We don't want them to fail, we just know it's very easy for them to do so.

There is some very strong competition in the ADV bike market. You have the following already slugging it out;

BMW R800GS and R1200GS (Market Leader)
KTM 1190/1290 Adventure and Super Adventure
Honda Africa Twin CRF1000
Ducati Multistrada 1200
and some others like Kawasaki and Yamaha.

HD would have to include a lot of "new to Harley" technology.
- Electronic Suspension Adjustment
- Riding Modes (Offroad, Rain, Sport, Highway)
and as mentioned somewhere above, durability in an offroad environment.

Kudos to HD if they are able to compete in the ADV market. And, this market is shrinking too - in case you were wondering.

Simon

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Re: 4 New Harleys for 2019-2020
« Reply #10 on: July 30, 2018, 12:44:19 PM »

Bikes look OK but Harley should have done that 20 years ago....
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Re: 4 New Harleys for 2019-2020
« Reply #11 on: July 30, 2018, 01:53:54 PM »

My my, did we all notice COMPLETE LIQUID COOLING!!!!!!



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Re: 4 New Harleys for 2019-2020
« Reply #12 on: July 30, 2018, 03:39:03 PM »

From the pictures it looks like they have overhead cams. Hopefully that add to the reliability.

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Re: 4 New Harleys for 2019-2020
« Reply #13 on: July 30, 2018, 03:46:49 PM »

I got a good chuckle out of all of the disclaimers, which were a good chunk of the total article text.
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Re: 4 New Harleys for 2019-2020
« Reply #14 on: July 30, 2018, 03:52:52 PM »

That looks to be a chain drive on the Pan American but belt on the other two and Livewire?
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