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TraumaSlave

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When u pay for a tune, who's is it?
« on: March 17, 2019, 08:11:16 AM »

Horrible bike luck in Daytona. My ECM went out. Blah blah blah, new one installed by Rossmyers but, they didn't swap my tune in license over to the new ECM (guess that's not on them to do). My tuner gave me a thumb drive with license info on it and my original tune, not the one he dynoed for me. He said he normally doesn't give that info out. Maybe I'm wrong but, I want the darned tune I payed for. The fight with Dynojet over the ECM married license, that one I'm in with and expect to prevail. As for the tuner, I'll be damned if I'm paying him for the same work twice. I want my tune!  Do your tuners provide you with a copy if your map?
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Re: When u pay for a tune, who's is it?
« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2019, 08:16:35 AM »

My tuner (DC Cycles, Red Bay, AL) gave me a thumb drive with the tune he did as well as charts.  He told me that if I ever had to replace my power commander that I could just load up the tune and be good to go.
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Re: When u pay for a tune, who's is it?
« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2019, 08:55:31 AM »

Ya that’s a total dirt bag move!
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Re: When u pay for a tune, who's is it?
« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2019, 08:58:00 AM »

 IMO, you paid for your tune therefore you own it.  Custom tune files should always be provided to the one that paid for it.   Your tune is only accurate for your bike— it would be of no use to anyone else except for a starting point to develop a different custom tune.
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Re: When u pay for a tune, who's is it?
« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2019, 09:46:58 AM »

When the bike was originally tuned.  Why didn't you ask for your custom calibration then?
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Re: When u pay for a tune, who's is it?
« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2019, 10:47:02 AM »

When the bike was originally tuned.  Why didn't you ask for your custom calibration then?
I thought that was what was on the thumb drive that he handed me.
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Re: When u pay for a tune, who's is it?
« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2019, 11:16:58 AM »

Horrible bike luck in Daytona. My ECM went out. Blah blah blah, new one installed by Rossmyers but, they didn't swap my tune in license over to the new ECM (guess that's not on them to do). My tuner gave me a thumb drive with license info on it and my original tune, not the one he dynoed for me. He said he normally doesn't give that info out. Maybe I'm wrong but, I want the darned tune I payed for. The fight with Dynojet over the ECM married license, that one I'm in with and expect to prevail. As for the tuner, I'll be damned if I'm paying him for the same work twice. I want my tune!  Do your tuners provide you with a copy if your map?

That sure sucks.  I am interested in knowing more about the PCM Failure?   What year and model is your bike?   What were the symptoms?     Were you aware that they are covered under warranty from Harley as part of the emission system for 5 years from the date of In Service?   

I know that folks will say the warranty is voided because of the tune but the Warranty Books say, "THE FOLLOWING ITEMS ARE NOT COVERED BY THE EMISSION CONTROL SYSTEM LIMITED WARRANTY - Failures which arise as a result of misuse, tampering, alterations, accident, acts of nature, or improper or inadequate maintenance as specified in the Owner's Manual."

I would argue (perhaps unsuccessfully, but you can bet I would argue!)  that that they would have to prove the failure was a result of the tune and not hardware.
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Re: When u pay for a tune, who's is it?
« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2019, 05:47:03 PM »

05 SEEG with a stage 4 build to 106. No warranty to use. Bike would drop the #2 cylinder every 3 seconds, fire for 3, drop for 3,,,,,,,,,,,. No symptoms prior to initial drop. I changed to ignition coil in a futal attempt.
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Re: When u pay for a tune, who's is it?
« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2019, 06:27:18 PM »

I thought that was what was on the thumb drive that he handed me.

My tuner has always provided a flash drive with both the charts and finished tune. The tune is also stored in the TTS module as well.
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Re: When u pay for a tune, who's is it?
« Reply #9 on: March 18, 2019, 07:36:05 AM »

Good news! He found it in his computer. Big thanks to him for double checking. Now, to deal with Dynojet.
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Re: When u pay for a tune, who's is it?
« Reply #10 on: March 18, 2019, 03:10:44 PM »

Sitting at Smokey Mt HD now. Dynojet sent a replacement license code for me. Just waiting for the flash.
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Re: When u pay for a tune, who's is it?
« Reply #11 on: March 18, 2019, 07:19:53 PM »

Sitting at Smokey Mt HD now. Dynojet sent a replacement license code for me. Just waiting for the flash.
Keep an eye out for FLSTFIDave and CVOJoe to come rolling in.
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Re: When u pay for a tune, who's is it?
« Reply #12 on: March 19, 2019, 05:51:19 PM »

Keep an eye out for FLSTFIDave and CVOJoe to come rolling in.
In Lafayette LA for training.  Will probably be over at SMHD Thursday or Friday afternoon, to order touch up paint and have a cigar and beer.

As for paying for a tune, I have always got a copy of the tune
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Re: When u pay for a tune, who's is it?
« Reply #13 on: March 19, 2019, 10:31:46 PM »

Just so I'm clear, the person who tuned your bike is going to provide you with the correct map to re-flash your bike? It seemed like initially you meant he would not provide you the "dyno tuned" map he did.
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Re: When u pay for a tune, who's is it?
« Reply #14 on: March 20, 2019, 04:37:56 PM »

You paid for it, the tune belongs to you......yes we always provide our customers with a copy of the tune and I always save a copy in my computer for them also.
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