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[DavidB]

Sounds like the old cause and effect of Murphys law.
The cure (new starter ) destroys the next weaker part ( the ring gear ).
Is there an aftermarket ring gear made by Andrews or  S&S. I know Harley wouldn`t pay for it under warranty but the warranty is no good when broke down South of Dallas.

[skreminegul07]

Sounds like the old cause and effect of Murphys law.
The cure (new starter ) destroys the next weaker part ( the ring gear ).
Is there an aftermarket ring gear made by Andrews or  S&S. I know Harley wouldn`t pay for it under warranty but the warranty is no good when broke down South of Dallas.

HD is now R&D.  These limited edition new engine models suck when it comes to needing parts.  It took 4 weeks to order a new rear wheel for my SERK.

[Fired00d]

Well gang, keep any eye on your starter ring gears! I was told my clutch hub is on National back order because HD's changing the design/materials to try to fix the run of problems their having with the current one. They're not installing them anymore in new bikes. They are using a new PN from here on in, when it's available. They've been making ring gears without problems forever. WTF??? They said the new starter design puts much more stress on the ring gear, requiring a design/material change. Therefore, no SERK for me for a few weeks probably. They better get it back to me before my CVO pickup ride!!! Damn this sucks!!! Needless to say, Hoist is not a happy camper right now! FTF! FTW! Hoist!

Howie,
Sorry to hear this. I know you had mentioned you wanted to go w/a chrome starter to replace the OEM does this mean they will be needing to change these also? This may be something for those w/the 110ci motors to be aware of.

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 

[VaEagle]

Wow Howie,
Sorry for your troubles, I hope they get a fix for you soon.I know you had such enthusiasm about getting this new bike and this has to damper the joy a lot.
Good luck,
Dave

[Hoist!]

Sounds like the old cause and effect of Murphys law.
The cure (new starter ) destroys the next weaker part ( the ring gear ).
Is there an aftermarket ring gear made by Andrews or  S&S. I know Harley wouldn`t pay for it under warranty but the warranty is no good when broke down South of Dallas.

The ring gear is welded to the clutch hub. It's a major hassle to replace only the ring gear. I'm sure there must be aftermarket clutches for the bike I guess, but this is probably about a $1500 job overall. I'll use the stock stuff right now and hope they have it cured, and also hope that the dealer doesn't screw up my bike. If this happens again, FTW, I'm replacing the clutch with non-HD chit! The starter is being replaced as well because the broken ring gear took out the starter jackshaft pinion gear. $100 extra for the chrome one. $270 for a chrome inner primary and 1 hour labor. I'm still in this thing for another $500, but that's cheap for a chrome starter/inner primary. I wouldn't be doing this if it didn't break in the first place. Seems like they design a bike, then you have to replace all their cheapo crap with real quality aftermarket parts so you don't have to worry about breaking down! FTF!!! FTW!!! Hoist!

[Hoist!]

Howie,
Sorry to hear this. I know you had mentioned you wanted to go w/a chrome starter to replace the OEM does this mean they will be needing to change these also? This may be something for those w/the 110ci motors to be aware of.

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 

I don't think they're changing starter design/materials, just the clutch hub/ring gear. I believe it's not just the 110's. It's all '07's and '06 Dynas from what I understand. Hoist!

[Fired00d]

I don't think they're changing starter design/materials, just the clutch hub/ring gear. I believe it's not just the 110's. It's all '07's and '06 Dynas from what I understand. Hoist!

Ok, gotcha. For some reason I was thinking the problem was in the gears on the starter.

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 

[Hoist!]

Ok, gotcha. For some reason I was thinking the problem was in the gears on the starter.

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 

My understanding is the broken ring gear took out the starter gear, but the starter design is unchanged. They have my new chrome starter, but without the new clutch hub I'm SOL! Hoist!

[hogasm]

. Seems like they design a bike, then you have to replace all their cheapo crap with real quality aftermarket parts so you don't have to worry about breaking down! FTF!!! FTW!!! Hoist!

Hoist, that's why when you bought the bike one of the things they gave you was the new parts catalog. Even though Willie G is an idiot, his moma didn't raise a fool.

[Hoist!]

Hoist, that's why when you bought the bike one of the things they gave you was the new parts catalog. Even though Willie G is an idiot, his moma didn't raise a fool.

Brian, you forgot one thing. You have to replace the cheapo HD broken junk with bulletproof aftermarket parts. That doesn't help Old Wille Boy any now! Hoist!

[hogasm]

Hoist, was at the dealer yesterday, they had 2 07's in service with ring gear problems like yours. They said the problem is in the inferior metal used in the ring gear. We called Barnette and Rivera for new ring gears "mine needs one also" ad they do not have one available yet for' the 07's.

Can't blame you for replacing the parts with aftermarket but remember that your 2 year warranty will not cover them

[Fired00d]

Hoist, was at the dealer yesterday, they had 2 07's in service with ring gear problems like yours. They said the problem is in the inferior metal used in the ring gear. We called Barnette and Rivera for new ring gears "mine needs one also" ad they do not have one available yet for' the 07's.

Can't blame you for replacing the parts with aftermarket but remember that your 2 year warranty will not cover them

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 

[Hoist!]

Hoist, was at the dealer yesterday, they had 2 07's in service with ring gear problems like yours. They said the problem is in the inferior metal used in the ring gear. We called Barnette and Rivera for new ring gears "mine needs one also" ad they do not have one available yet for' the 07's.

Can't blame you for replacing the parts with aftermarket but remember that your 2 year warranty will not cover them

FTW!!! Hoist!

[Mikey]

Guys,
I think there are more problems than the ring gear on all of the 07's. I was at Chicago Harley Davidson today and heard a brand new bike start with the happy new owner riding away. The starter sounded awful, the bike was kicking back when he initially cranked the engine and then died on the first try. Something is not right with that.
Mikey

[Hoist!]

Guys,
I mentioned before I think there are more problems than the ring gear the 07. I was at Chicago Harley Davidson today and heard a brand new bike start with the happy new owner. The starter sounded awful, the bike was kicking back and died on the first try. Something is not right with that.
Mike

That sure is an understatement Mikey. Now that it's apart, I'm trying to find an alternative to this crazy setup. Hogasm's gonna think I'm nuts, but I'm calling Baker on Mon! A combination of the King Kong Clutch and regearing is starting to sound pretty good to me about now! Hoist!