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[Hoist!]

In light of my ring gear self destructing and taking the starter with it, and the HD clutch hub on national back order, is there a bulletproof high performance clutch I should be considering to use instead? I want it very streetable, not a racing clutch. I figure I won't have to pay for any labor if I order the clutch thru the dealer. Any trouble-free ideas I can't go wrong with? TIA! Hoist!

[nidan]

The Barnett Scorpion Billet clutch has a very good rep

[Hoist!]

I'd be looking for one that is a complete assembly, including clutch hub w/ring gear, or from someone that makes a performance clutch hub. I'd do this because the stock one is on back order. If I have to wait for an HD hub, my priority's not as great, since I can reuse my existing HD clutch components. That is, unless there is a clutch I can absolutely not do without! Hoist!

[Hoist!]

I've been searching for awhile this afternoon. I can't seem to locate clutch hubs w/ring gear for 6-speeds at all. Anyone know anything about aftermarket performance clutch hubs for 6-speed trannys? Maybe a good hub with Rivera Pro Clutch would do nicely! Hoist!

[StreetDog]

Hoist, seems like you have had alot of problems with your new baby. Do you know what caused the problem with the clutch hub and starter gear. Was it the automatic copression release solinoil wiring shorting out causeing them to fail, in turn causeing the problems with the starter. I have heard of this issue happening.

[geezerglide]

Besides the Barnett Scorpion, look at the Rivera Pro Clutch have one in my Jims 120, my HD Clutch was slipping till replaced with Pro Clutch, now hooks up great.

And this is with 131 HP and Torque of 134.

geezerglide

[Hoist!]

KD, I've heard that too. I'm not sure these guys really have a clue, but the starter didn't fail. The broken ring gear took the starter jackshaft pinion gear out or visa-versa. The starter is is all one piece now, including the jackshaft. That's why the starter needs to be replaced too. They just seem to replace broken parts. I wouldn't exactly call these guys "Technicians". More like "parts changers". With everything banging around and hammering in these new designs, who the hell knows what's causing it. Either it's poor or improperly designed ring gears or the ACR/banging compensators would be my guess. HD realizes that the ring gear can't handle whatever is causing it, so they're redesigning it now.

Hey gg, I agree with you on the Rivera Pro Clutch. I've been running it for years on my '85 4-speed. 325% more clutch area than stock with it on the early diaphragm clutches, and it hooks up great, with good lever effort. I have it on my Pro Street too. I figured why not have it on all 3 bikes! The clutch hub/ring gear is still the problem right now though.

Hoist!

[SOKOOLJ]

Sorry to hear your misfortunes, Hoist. My SERK had the same problem last fall, although, I had two teeth break off also. Of course I am also on 900 miles post engine replacement b/c my fly wheel was out 56th thousandths. Good luck with the search, wish I would have thought about it myself.

SOKOOL

[Hoist!]

Sorry to hear your misfortunes, Hoist. My SERK had the same problem last fall, although, I had two teeth break off also. Of course I am also on 900 miles post engine replacement b/c my fly wheel was out 56th thousandths. Good luck with the search, wish I would have thought about it myself.

SOKOOL

Thanks sokool, I'm finding that no one makes a clutch hub for these bikes yet except HD. And they have to redesign theirs so they don't break, so they're not shipping anymore old ones. Now I have no idea how long my bike will be there waiting for this part. There is no alternative at this point. This really sucks! Is your new one holding up OK. It would still be the old design. Keep an eye on it.

96 thou out! Holy chit! Good thing you didn't try gear drive cams in that thing. Was the motor still running when they changed it, or did it tear things up? I'm glad they took care of it. Good luck with the new motor.

[Unbalanced]

Hoist,

I would recommend the Rivera Pro Clutch its what I have on the 124", it has worked flawlessly.   You might also consider changing your gearing since you have to replace the clutch basket to 337 gearing from the 315 stock gearing

24 counter and 37 clutch   from the 25/36 you have now.

[Hoist!]

Hoist,

I would recommend the Rivera Pro Clutch its what I have on the 124", it has worked flawlessly.   You might also consider changing your gearing since you have to replace the clutch basket to 337 gearing from the 315 stock gearing

24 counter and 37 clutch   from the 25/36 you have now.

Thanks Harry, I have their Pro Clutch on both my other bikes. But I'm not finding the Pro Clutch for '06 Dyna/'07 BT's w/6-speeds available. Their site doesn't access their Clutches for some reason.
I'm interested in the regearing you speak of as well. Thanks for your help with this. Hoist!

[Hoist!]

Hoist,

I would recommend the Rivera Pro Clutch its what I have on the 124", it has worked flawlessly.   You might also consider changing your gearing since you have to replace the clutch basket to 337 gearing from the 315 stock gearing

24 counter and 37 clutch   from the 25/36 you have now.

I'm a little confused by the sprocket sizes here. I checked the parts manual and it says there's a 34 tooth engine sprocket and a 46 tooth clutch sprocket for Dom, HDI and Japan. I'm not sure what you mean by 24/37 or 25/36. I checked out the Kong Clutch and it says it uses a 66 tooth configuration. What goes with what here? Hoist!

BTW that Kong clutch looks pretty awesome!

[Unbalanced]

The Kong comes in two flavors the 120 somthing and a 60 something.

Hoist if they changed something in 07 I hadnt checked it yet.   Typically everything from 02 - 06 was 25 counter sprocket and 36 clutch basket there are lots of posts on this through out the site.   I didn't look into it as I told you in the PM so if I am off on the sizing please disregard it.
The idea between the 2 sizes on the kong are for stronger teeth / bigger teeth for the 60 tooth and smaller teeth for the 128 a little less strong in the tooth section.

Call Baker and talk to Nate tell him I asked you to call him.

-harry

[Puzzled]

I skipped to the end after reading the first couple of posts. So if I repeat something that has been said slap me.

You made reference to a six speed ring gear, why? Has someone told you that a six speed is different than a five speed? Regardless, if you should replace the entire clutch assembly look into the different tooth counts. This will require a jack shaft change as you will need the proper gear for the new starter ring gear. You made me curious about the starter when you said it is now built with the jack shaft as opposed to being a bolt on. I'll have to wander over to the dealers and look through the parts catalogs. That seems odd. Thain again the 07 is a different beast all together and I haven't had my hands on one yet. The best I can do is relate to an 06, which is pretty much the same since the inception of Harley!

[Hoist!]

The Kong comes in two flavors the 120 somthing and a 60 something.

Hoist if they changed something in 07 I hadnt checked it yet.   Typically everything from 02 - 06 was 25 counter sprocket and 36 clutch basket there are lots of posts on this through out the site.   I didn't look into it as I told you in the PM so if I am off on the sizing please disregard it.
The idea between the 2 sizes on the kong are for stronger teeth / bigger teeth for the 60 tooth and smaller teeth for the 128 a little less strong in the tooth section.

Call Baker and talk to Nate tell him I asked you to call him.

-harry

Thanks Harry. I'm calling them tomorrow.

Puzzled, it appears they've made many changes inside the primary on '07's. And the starter is one piece. I have to find out now what can be used with what, in trying to get ride of the mess they created there. This might be more difficult than I first envisioned. I'll make some calls and let you guys know.

What a friggin' mess!!!

Hoist!