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[REGGAB]

Amazing, Brian.  Can't tell you how familiar your story sounds.  I end up in like situations everytime I undertake a project around here.  Tomorrow the Sporty gets a service.  This should be good.  Glad you got Bessie back together again.

[grc]

I'm not so sure I buy in to the auto tensioner causing extremely rapid chain wear theory, unless you've got a coil spring from a Chevy in there.  The tensioner is located on the slack side of the chain (bottom), while the top side is under heavy tension from the engine sprocket "pulling" the clutch sprocket.  Much more likely to suspect a poor quality chain (see if there is a tiny "Made in China" etched into one of the side plates).

The "overdrive" primary gearing that comes with the DD-6 is similar to what H-D did on the '07 ('06 Dyna) and up Big Twins with Cruise Drive.  All of those bikes come standard with the H-D auto tensioner, and other than a couple of tensioner failures I haven't heard of any primary chain issues so far.  If the theory put forth by the Baker tech is true, I guess the '07/'08 owners will have one more issue staring them in the face very shortly.  I'm betting NOT.

Jerry

[skreminegul07]

I'm not so sure I buy in to the auto tensioner causing extremely rapid chain wear theory, unless you've got a coil spring from a Chevy in there.  The tensioner is located on the slack side of the chain (bottom), while the top side is under heavy tension from the engine sprocket "pulling" the clutch sprocket.  Much more likely to suspect a poor quality chain (see if there is a tiny "Made in China" etched into one of the side plates).

The "overdrive" primary gearing that comes with the DD-6 is similar to what H-D did on the '07 ('06 Dyna) and up Big Twins with Cruise Drive.  All of those bikes come standard with the H-D auto tensioner, and other than a couple of tensioner failures I haven't heard of any primary chain issues so far.  If the theory put forth by the Baker tech is true, I guess the '07/'08 owners will have one more issue staring them in the face very shortly.  I'm betting NOT.

Jerry

The 07's are seeing excessive crank out that could in some way be related to an over tight chain.  A few members have posted that they noticed the chain was excessively tight when they removed the primary.  Unfortunately, there is no more acess panel to see how tight the chain is.

[Rooster]

$53 for a half gallon. This way you don't go through as many bottles while working on the bike

You have to get the tipper to put the big bottle in that way you don't have to pick up that big bottle just tip over to fill glass. Don't ask me how I know but I could arange a pic if needed.

[reo]

I'm not so sure I buy in to the auto tensioner causing extremely rapid chain wear theory, unless you've got a coil spring from a Chevy in there.  The tensioner is located on the slack side of the chain (bottom), while the top side is under heavy tension from the engine sprocket "pulling" the clutch sprocket.  Much more likely to suspect a poor quality chain (see if there is a tiny "Made in China" etched into one of the side plates).

The "overdrive" primary gearing that comes with the DD-6 is similar to what H-D did on the '07 ('06 Dyna) and up Big Twins with Cruise Drive.  All of those bikes come standard with the H-D auto tensioner, and other than a couple of tensioner failures I haven't heard of any primary chain issues so far.  If the theory put forth by the Baker tech is true, I guess the '07/'08 owners will have one more issue staring them in the face very shortly.  I'm betting NOT.

Jerry

Jerry,

I don't think the problem is from the pressure of the spring. I would think maybe the auto ratcheting design would possibly be more likely causing a potential problem, especially with a modified huge torque engine when the driver is on and off the throttle taking all the tension out of the chain on the torque side, letting the ratchet take all the slack out of the chain on the back side. This in effect causes the chain to run in a too tight condition. Just an oppinion but I still like the ideal of adjusting it myself and check the chain at each oil change. Heck I can tell when the chain gets too loose just by the way the trans clunks when I put mine in gear.

Roy......

[CVOMOE!!]

So how's the damn squirrel doing???

CVOMOE

[hogasm]

You have to get the tipper to put the big bottle in that way you don't have to pick up that big bottle just tip over to fill glass. Don't ask me how I know but I could arange a pic if needed.

I'm talking about buying one big bottle instead of 3 or 4 little bottles

[hogasm]

Jerry,

I don't think the problem is from the pressure of the spring. I would think maybe the auto ratcheting design would possibly be more likely causing a potential problem, especially with a modified huge torque engine when the driver is on and off the throttle taking all the tension out of the chain on the torque side, letting the ratchet take all the slack out of the chain on the back side. This in effect causes the chain to run in a too tight condition. Just an oppinion but I still like the ideal of adjusting it myself and check the chain at each oil change. Heck I can tell when the chain gets too loose just by the way the trans clunks when I put mine in gear.

Roy......

reo this motor is a 124 T-Man built with the stock 103 bottom end.  Torque is over 140ft lbs. The HB-125 auto tensioner is controlled by oil. One thing that their tech mentioned to me is that they don't recend the tension. So if you get on the motor hard, the chain could get a little slap in it and the tensioner would catch up to it. This would make the chain too tight and cause undo wear on it.

Baker has a new design manual tensioner shoe that I got with the new chain. The tech at Baker thought that the chain with this modified of a motor should get at least 50,000 miles on it before a replacement is needed. I only got 25,000 miles.

[hogasm]

So how's the damn squirrel doing???

CVOMOE

Moe, after giving the squirrel to the animal control people, I had second thoughts. I called them to get the little thing back. They would not give it back siting that it was a wild animal and was against the law to posess.

They did tell me that the little guy is doing fine and will be released back to the wild in 6 days. I hope it makes it

[reo]

reo this motor is a 124 T-Man built with the stock 103 bottom end.  Torque is over 140ft lbs. The HB-125 auto tensioner is controlled by oil. One thing that their tech mentioned to me is that they don't recend the tension. So if you get on the motor hard, the chain could get a little slap in it and the tensioner would catch up to it. This would make the chain too tight and cause undo wear on it.

Baker has a new design manual tensioner shoe that I got with the new chain. The tech at Baker thought that the chain with this modified of a motor should get at least 50,000 miles on it before a replacement is needed. I only got 25,000 miles.

I didn't know you were using the HB-125 but it still doesn't back off its tension as you stated. Thats kind of why I don't like these auto tensioners. As I said before I have always liked to run the chain in its loosest state as it uses the least amount of parasitic horsepower.

Of course we all know how easy you are on your motor Brian so I wouldn't think the 140ft lbs of torque would cause that chain to get to its tightest state.....ha ha ha


Roy.....

[hogasm]

I didn't know you were using the HB-125 but it still doesn't back off its tension as you stated. Thats kind of why I don't like these auto tensioners. As I said before I have always liked to run the chain in its loosest state as it uses the least amount of parasitic horsepower.

Of course we all know how easy you are on your motor Brian so I wouldn't think the 140ft lbs of torque would cause that chain to get to its tightest state.....ha ha ha


Roy.....

I'm easy on her. Bessie's tach has never seen the top side of 5000rpm's. 












and no it is not broken

[hogasm]

Now to continue the saga....Squirrel to be released tomorrow......

Bolting everything back together and starting to torque the comp nut. Got to 105lbs and bam....the fu_king thing broke

Time to consume massive amounts of Crown. Will probably have to split the cases to fix this one.

[Fired00d]

Damn!!! That sucks. It just get worse, and worse.

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 

[hogasm]

Damn!!! That sucks. It just get worse, and worse.

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 

Gary the only way it could get worse is if Canada quits making Crown Royal

[Fired00d]

Gary the only way it could get worse is if Canada quits making Crown Royal

Well lets hope that doesn't happen.

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d