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Break in or upgrades first
« on: April 07, 2005, 09:07:40 PM »

Hi everyone. Ran into this site while making my decision to buy the SE Ultra this morning. Well, as of Saturday my Road king will have company in the garage. Anyway, I would value your opinions on breaking in the bike first versus adding the pipes/filter/tuner first. I actually did the upgrades first on the RK but curious what the thoughts are around this. I'll be riding it at least 100 miles home since my dealer sold the one he had while I was out on a trip.
Also, any advice on pipes would be appreciated, I like my Rineharts on the RK but I want something different for the SE (I assume the stock one won't meet my taste and will restrict performance).
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Re: Break in or upgrades first
« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2005, 09:25:06 PM »

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Hi everyone. Ran into this site while making my decision to buy the SE Ultra this morning. Well, as of Saturday my Road king will have company in the garage. Anyway, I would value your opinions on breaking in the bike first versus adding the pipes/filter/tuner first. I actually did the upgrades first on the RK but curious what the thoughts are around this. I'll be riding it at least 100 miles home since my dealer sold the one he had while I was out on a trip.
Also, any advice on pipes would be appreciated, I like my Rineharts on the RK but I want something different for the SE (I assume the stock one won't meet my taste and will restrict performance).
Thanks

UFO,
Welcome to the site.

JMHO, set the bike up for how you are going to ride it and forget the visits to the shop for upgrades.

I would go with the Freedom version of the Rineharts.  They work better with the 103's.

If you are not all hung up on the bike looking symmetrical, I would run a 2 into 1 set up like a V&H propipe or D&D Fatcats.

After that little 100 mile ride and lunch at home I think that you will end up with about 300-400 for the day.

Mike
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Re: Break in or upgrades first
« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2005, 09:51:01 PM »

ufo

An impulse buyer, my kind of CVO owner.  I staged II my RKC, added pipes and a whole bunch of chrome before I ever rode it.  I really had no basis for comparison when folks asked me how the Rineharts performed compared to stock.  I rode the SEEG for a thousand miles to avoid not having a baseline for comparision.  I also was able to evaluate the bike in stock form to determine what upgrades I wanted.  I agonized over pipes, seats, bars and changed my mind several times in that first thousand miles.  If you elect the Freedom package it will take a day or two to get to you so you might as well ride it in the meantime.

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Re: Break in or upgrades first
« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2005, 09:52:15 PM »

Oh, and congrats on the new bike.  

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Re: Break in or upgrades first
« Reply #4 on: April 07, 2005, 09:57:55 PM »

JRUd and LetsRoll are awaiting their bikes to be delivered and have an enormous amount of upgrades awaiting birth. Rainman had an enormous amount of upgrades prior to delivery of his SEFB.
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Re: Break in or upgrades first
« Reply #5 on: April 07, 2005, 10:25:47 PM »

UFO

I have never heard of a Screaming Eagle Ultra [smiley=nervous.gif].
The picture you posted is of a Screaming Eagle Electra Glide.

Welcome to the site!
Your best bet is to get a few miles on the bike and read and reread this site many many times.

Your performance goals will be most determined by two main things,

1) Looks,, and that means do you want dual pipes showing in the rear or just one.

2) Money,, just how much horsepower are you willing to pay for?

After those two issues are settled then pick and choose from the information on this site.
Just remember, when the B/S stops most likely Tater Hubbard will be at the front of the pack. He has paid for that right. Ask him, he will be glad to help you! [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]
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Re: Break in or upgrades first
« Reply #6 on: April 07, 2005, 11:09:26 PM »

UFO;
Welcome to the site and congrats on the new ride!!. I also would recommend the Freedom package. I went with it on my SEEG and really love the performance. If you have not done so already check out his thread on the Freedom setup: http://flhrsei.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=eg_gen;action=display;num=1099534567

I would not worry about doing the upgrades before a full break in either. After your hundred mile or so ride home the rings are set.

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Re: Break in or upgrades first
« Reply #7 on: April 08, 2005, 01:44:40 AM »

Welcome, ufo...I agree with waiting a bit for the performance stuff. Specifically the race tuner. If you have the dealer do the install...air cleaner, pipes, tuner...and they have a dyno, they will want to run it on the dyno to tune it. They run it pretty hard. Our techs recommend you have 500 plus miles before you dyno-tune it.
Congrats on the SEEG, you'll love it. [smiley=beerchug.gif]
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Re: Break in or upgrades first
« Reply #8 on: April 08, 2005, 09:19:06 AM »

Yeah, 'er 'uh, ufo!
 Welcome to the site!  Hd2003 is right!  If you want to see a Screamin' Ultra, go to HUBBARD'S ROCKET RIDE under "Other Topics."  Just a reminder, always take everything hd2003 and SHRADER say with a grain of Salt!  They both could blow up an Onion sack, under water!! [smiley=huepfenjump3.gif]  I hope you can come to the "Valley" so you can see my "Led Sled Ultra" go by hd2003 like he's sittin' up on jack stands! [smiley=huepfenlol2.gif]  Enjoy!  Later--HUBBARD  
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« Reply #9 on: April 08, 2005, 09:42:08 AM »

I love this site!!

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Re: Break in or upgrades first
« Reply #10 on: April 08, 2005, 09:48:02 AM »

Thanks much for the replies. Yup, not an ultra, it's an electra. My daughter said she wants the rear speakers, she asked me why this ultra did not have them, so it stuck with me yesterday. I tend to agree on knowing before and after, I've always had the changes done before the bikes hit the street, so no reference point. As you can see I went nuts with the RK on perf upgrades, not the intent with this one, thought is just pipes/filter/tuner which I think will bring this bike close the 100 T/H. Hubbard I'll be sure to take your advice on hd2003 and SHRADER  [smiley=shocked2.gif] and check out the ROCKET RIDE.  
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« Reply #11 on: April 08, 2005, 10:01:01 AM »

Quote from:  like he's sittin' up on jack stands! [smiley=huepfenlol2.gif
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Re: Break in or upgrades first
« Reply #12 on: April 08, 2005, 12:06:09 PM »

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Thanks much for the replies. Yup, not an ultra, it's an electra. My daughter said she wants the rear speakers, she asked me why this ultra did not have them, so it stuck with me yesterday. I tend to agree on knowing before and after, I've always had the changes done before the bikes hit the street, so no reference point. As you can see I went nuts with the RK on perf upgrades, not the intent with this one, thought is just pipes/filter/tuner which I think will bring this bike close the 100 T/H. Hubbard I'll be sure to take your advice on hd2003 and SHRADER
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Re: Break in or upgrades first
« Reply #13 on: April 08, 2005, 06:06:41 PM »

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Hi everyone. Ran into this site while making my decision to buy the SE Ultra this morning. Well, as of Saturday my Road king will have company in the garage. Anyway, I would value your opinions on breaking in the bike first versus adding the pipes/filter/tuner first. I actually did the upgrades first on the RK but curious what the thoughts are around this. I'll be riding it at least 100 miles home since my dealer sold the one he had while I was out on a trip.
Also, any advice on pipes would be appreciated, I like my Rineharts on the RK but I want something different for the SE (I assume the stock one won't meet my taste and will restrict performance).
Thanks



Ufo,

Warm welcome to this site! [smiley=beerchug.gif]

I am about to recieve my Lil Bananna and have set up to let them install pipes, cleaner, and download before delivery along with handle bars, progressive shocks, spoilers, king tour pak and rack, and a bunch of other chrome goodies and accessories including Hogtune speakers. I had entirely too much time on my hands this winter! [smiley=huepfenlol2.gif].

A couple things were factored in to my decision. They gave me 5 hours labor at half price and 20% discount on parts. I asked for a certain mechanic as I know the Quality of work he puts out. I am very busy at work and would kill myself trying to get all accesories on my new scoot. All accesories would carry under warranty on bike (what I was told).

Engine modifications are only pipes, cleaner, and download. Break-in is a personal preference. My last break-in was as requested by factory. This one is going to be different. I am a field service mechanic for a Cat dealer and have built a few engines in the last 25 years. After each rebuild we warm up engine then load the engine to seat the rings. Use to run them on dyno for 4 hrs, now they only get about 1 hr. I checked out that link to the MOTOMAN and it made sense to me from my background so I am going to break mine in that way. I will take for a nice little ride and change oil and filter when I get home. [smiley=laugh.gif]

I see you are getting the race tuner and not sure about that. I personally would do more research on that. I would make sure my dynoman was top notch and not a wannabe mechanic. Our Cat shop is full of a bunch of wannabe's, use caution. [smiley=shocked2.gif]

Congrates on your new scoot and Blessings to you ufo.

                                              JR [smiley=laugh.gif]
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Re: Break in or upgrades first
« Reply #14 on: April 08, 2005, 07:40:17 PM »

Welcome ufo, congrats on yer new bike.

If you already got it on your mind to upgrade the bike go ahead and do it. You're going to eventually anyway so why not now?

As for what to do thats up to you, and as you mentioned depends entirely on how much additional power you want, and how much you want to spend.

Personally I like to stay with SE parts when they are available. The only non-H-D performance parts on my bike are the Rineharts and the HP Inc. throttle body. Some may say that this is because I am associated with a dealership, but it was also true before I was an employee. There is plenty of performance waiting in that 103 inch motor and I'm sure that you will get a lot of ideas about what to do from this site.

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