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[FNGw/08SERK]

Terry, I think you'll dig this one!

http://www.motherjones.com/commentary/fiore/2006/08/hoax.html

Not an editorial from me. I just thought it was funny.

Hoist!

I think thats the first Hoist disclaimer - EVER.....    

[gaspo]

I am nobody and count for sh*t, but since the beginning of the world the climate has ALWAYS  changed, Africa was once a forest, etc.. and didnt the world already go thru a couple of Iced Ages, so in my Man has been here for such a short time, All I know is I will ride for today for who cares what tommorrow brings

[Hoist!]

This guy's pretty cool too. Not a Gore fan though!

I think thats the first Hoist disclaimer - EVER.....    

Would'nt want Talon to think I was going soft again!

Hoist!

[Midnight Rider]

So far I've seen a lot of words and not a lick of proof on anything.  Using the Don "Twolane" approach to global warming, I have photographic proof that global warming is, in fact, real.

 

Charlie...that's all the proof I need...

If you want to read the whole publication, here's something for bedtime reading:  http://www.ipcc.ch/ipccreports/ar4-syr.htm

United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC)


In a nutshell:

The report’s key conclusions are:
Warming of the climate system is unequivocal, as is now evident from observations of increases in global average air and ocean temperatures, widespread melting of snow and ice, and rising sea level.
It is 'very likely' that increases in man-made greenhouse gas emissions have caused most of the rise in globally averaged temperatures since the middle of the 20th century. It is 'extremely unlikely' that this warming was due to natural climate variability alone.
During the last 100 years the Earth has warmed by 0.76 °C on average, and the rate of warming has further increased. The 11 warmest years on record have all occurred in the last 12 years. The second half of the 20th century was the warmest period in the northern hemisphere for at least 1 300 years. Europe has warmed by about 1 °C over the past 100 years, faster than the global average.
The best estimates for projected global warming this century of a further rise in the global average temperature range from 1.8 to 4.0 °C by 2100 for different scenarios which do not assume that more action is taken to limit emissions. The full uncertainty range for the projected temperature increase this century is 1.1–6.4 °C.
Rates of observed sea level rise almost doubled from 18 centimetres per century in 1961–2003 to 31 cm per century in 1993–2003.
The concentration of carbon dioxide (CO2) and other greenhouse gases in the atmosphere has continued to increase due to man-made emissions, and the rate of increase has further accelerated. Current concentrations of CO2 and methane are the highest for at least 650 000 years.
Extreme weather events have increased and regional climate patterns are changing. Heat waves and other weather extremes, as well as changes in atmospheric circulation patterns, storm tracks and precipitation, can now be traced back to climate change caused by human activities.
Scientists have improved their ability to predict future climate change. Confidence in regional climate change projections has increased due to better models and more powerful computers. The temperature over land and at high northern latitudes will be higher than the global average. In the Arctic it could be on average 6 °C – and possibly as much as 8 °C — warmer by the end of this century than at the end of the 20th.

[FNGw/08SERK]

Charlie...that's all the proof I need...

If you want to read the whole publication, here's something for bedtime reading:  http://www.ipcc.ch/ipccreports/ar4-syr.htm

United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC)


In a nutshell:

The report’s key conclusions are:
Warming of the climate system is unequivocal, as is now evident from observations of increases in global average air and ocean temperatures, widespread melting of snow and ice, and rising sea level.
It is 'very likely' that increases in man-made greenhouse gas emissions have caused most of the rise in globally averaged temperatures since the middle of the 20th century. It is 'extremely unlikely' that this warming was due to natural climate variability alone.
During the last 100 years the Earth has warmed by 0.76 °C on average, and the rate of warming has further increased. The 11 warmest years on record have all occurred in the last 12 years. The second half of the 20th century was the warmest period in the northern hemisphere for at least 1 300 years. Europe has warmed by about 1 °C over the past 100 years, faster than the global average.
The best estimates for projected global warming this century of a further rise in the global average temperature range from 1.8 to 4.0 °C by 2100 for different scenarios which do not assume that more action is taken to limit emissions. The full uncertainty range for the projected temperature increase this century is 1.1–6.4 °C.
Rates of observed sea level rise almost doubled from 18 centimetres per century in 1961–2003 to 31 cm per century in 1993–2003.
The concentration of carbon dioxide (CO2) and other greenhouse gases in the atmosphere has continued to increase due to man-made emissions, and the rate of increase has further accelerated. Current concentrations of CO2 and methane are the highest for at least 650 000 years.
Extreme weather events have increased and regional climate patterns are changing. Heat waves and other weather extremes, as well as changes in atmospheric circulation patterns, storm tracks and precipitation, can now be traced back to climate change caused by human activities.
Scientists have improved their ability to predict future climate change. Confidence in regional climate change projections has increased due to better models and more powerful computers. The temperature over land and at high northern latitudes will be higher than the global average. In the Arctic it could be on average 6 °C – and possibly as much as 8 °C — warmer by the end of this century than at the end of the 20th.

OK, I gotta ask, if the above is accurate (we all know the United Nations has no agenda right  ) then what do WE do to ease the burden?

Howie

[RedDevil]

That only leads to one question. What's next? 

Based on the scale of proof that I provided, things should really get "hot" by the year 2010. 

 

[Hoist!]

Based on the scale of proof that I provided, things should really get "hot" by the year 2010. 

 

HD keeps making engines like they do today, it'll get hot much sooner than that around here!!!

Hoist!

[LRebel]

United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC)

In a nutshell:

The report’s key conclusions are:
Warming of the climate system is unequivocal,.......

A U.N. Panel, now there is a group of fine folks that I am sure we can all believe and trust

[Twolanerider]

 what do WE do to ease the burden?

Howie

I HAVE THEORIES!!


1) Teach cows to fart less.
2) Ride or Drive faster.  Greater speed causing larger vortices behind the vehicles leading to such tremendous vacuums behind the vehicles that their exhaust will actually be pulled through a dimensional portal and evacuated from our space/time continuum and deposited in to some other poor schmuck's space/time continuum.
3) Have more sex.  This because... well, I don't good reason relative to the topic at hand but it just always seems like a good idea.

[vagabond6542]

I'll second that motion!   

All in favor, say aye.

[Midnight Rider]

Some excerpts from other sources....  http://www.livescience.com/environment/global_warming_041115.html

Politicians in the nation's capital have been reluctant to set limits on the carbon dioxide pollution that is expected to warm the planet by 4 to 7 degrees Fahrenheit during the next century, citing uncertainty about the severity of the threat. But that uncertainty may have shrunk somewhat with the release last week of two scientific reports suggesting that global warming is not just a hypothetical possibility, but a real phenomenon that has already started transforming especially sensitive parts of the globe.

Overall, the reports say, Earth's climate has warmed by about 1 degree Fahrenheit since 1900. In the Arctic, where a number of processes amplify the warming effects of carbon dioxide, most regions have experienced a temperature rise of 4 to 7 degrees in the last 50 years.

That warmth has reduced the amount of snow that falls every winter, melted away mountain glaciers and shrunk the Arctic Ocean's summer sea ice cover to its smallest extent in millennia, according to satellite measurements. Swaths of Alaskan permafrost are thawing into soggy bogs, and trees are moving northward at the expense of the tundra that rings the Arctic Ocean.

These changes seriously threaten animals such as polar bears, which live and hunt on the sea ice. The bears have already suffered a 15 percent decrease in their number of offspring and a similar decline in weight over the past 25 years. If the Arctic sea ice disappears altogether during the summer months, as some researchers expect it will by the end of the century, polar bears have little chance of survival.

Things are less serious in the lower 48, where the effects of climate change have been more subtle. In much of the United States, spring arrives about two weeks earlier than it did 50 years ago. Tropical bird species have appeared in Florida and along the Gulf Coast. Species such as Edith's checkerspot, a butterfly native to western North America, have started dying out at the southern reaches of their ranges.

"Responses to climate change are being seen across the U.S.A," said Camille Parmesan, a biologist at the University of Texas in Austin. She is the co-author, with Hector Galbraith of the University of Colorado in Boulder, of "Observed Impacts of Global Climate Change in the U.S." The report was released Tuesday by the Pew Center on Global Climate Change, a non-partisan but not disinterested research organization dedicated to providing sound scientific information about global warming.

Parmesan and Galbraith acknowledge that nothing in the report would strike the average person as particularly alarming. They also allow that some of the past century's warming might have happened even if humans hadn't been pumping carbon dioxide into the atmosphere. But they argue that the changes they describe should be taken as a "very clear signal" that climate change will have significant effects in coming decades.

"The canaries in the coalmine are squawking, and we should absolutely take that seriously," Galbraith said.

Scientists aren't the only ones who have noticed the Arctic warming trend. Inuit hunters in Canada and Saami reindeer herders in Finland have detected shifts in the migratory behavior of animals. In some cases, people whose elders taught them decades ago how to forecast storms from wind patterns and cloud formations have lost their predictive abilities to new weather patterns.

[Chief]

Based on the scale of proof that I provided, things should really get "hot" by the year 2010. 

 

One can only hope. 

[FNGw/08SERK]

I HAVE THEORIES!!


1) Teach cows to fart less.
2) Ride or Drive faster.  Greater speed causing larger vortices behind the vehicles leading to such tremendous vacuums behind the vehicles that their exhaust will actually be pulled through a dimensional portal and evacuated from our space/time continuum and deposited in to some other poor schmuck's space/time continuum.
3) Have more sex.  This because... well, I don't good reason relative to the topic at hand but it just always seems like a good idea.

[Midnight Rider]

A U.N. Panel, now there is a group of fine folks that I am sure we can all believe and trust

These guys are not politicians, thank God...

[vagabond6542]

There are simply too many of us to ever be completely wiped out...it would be like trying to wipe out cockroaches.  The question is how would we prefer to reduce our impact...voluntarily, or not?  It WILL happen, one way or the other.  Certainly not in my lifetime, so I guess I should say 'ah, to hell with it, let somebody else deal with the problem'.  Just like I'd rather see people control the population by some other means than war, pestilence, or famine, but either way, it'll happen.  One way may be more pleasant than the other, however.

There is a way. The atmosphere ignites and burns all the oxygen.
Food for thought.