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Spanish Flyer

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Brakes are bad, but rear brake pedal access is almost impossible
« on: February 21, 2008, 03:29:54 PM »

Here in Europe the big sucker filter is a NO, NO due to some stupid law, so we get the normal football shaped housing instead of the Big Sucker. Problem is that whatever I do, my leg is pushed outwards by the filter housing in such a way that there is no way I will reach the brake pedal directly by any means; I have to turn my ankle inwards in such a way that it makes it almost impossible to brake with the rear brake. If we add to that the fact that the front brake is anything but a good brake, I wonder what Harley expects us to do when hard braking is a must. I have thought of buying an anchor and chain, but I try to use the normal procedure if possible. So is it only me having problems with the rear brake pedal access or maybe someone has solved the problem some how or other.

I see no other way but bending the pedal outwards; what do you think?

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Re: Brakes are bad, but rear brake pedal access is almost impossible
« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2008, 05:23:18 PM »

I wouldn't suggest for you to bend the brake pedal...that would not be a good solution.
The front brake pads can be replaced with Lyndall Brake Pads Part# 7059. I would suggest the Z-Plus Brake Pads, they make a noticable difference and will give you more confidence in your stopping power. Unfortunately, there is not a Lyndall brake pad available for the rear of the CVO Springer due to the new design.
http://www.lyndallracingbrakes.com/apps/application_guide-harley.htm

For comfort, I installed the Lindby Custom Linbar http://www.lindbycustom.com with the HD Centerline Collection Footpeg Kit. Most of the time my feet are either on the highway pegs or the heel of my foot is positioned on the forward controls and the front of my boots are resting on the highway pegs. When I need to apply the rear brake it seems easy enough to find. Here's a picture with the highway pegs up so you'll need to imagine how they would look when they are folded down to use.

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Re: Brakes are bad, but rear brake pedal access is almost impossible
« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2008, 07:49:37 PM »

laws are made to be broken so they say. why not just order the heavy breather?
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Re: Brakes are bad, but rear brake pedal access is almost impossible
« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2008, 07:56:15 PM »

saw your post on heavy breather. part # out of harley book is 29253-08 see if you can order it.
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Re: Brakes are bad, but rear brake pedal access is almost impossible
« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2008, 08:04:29 PM »

Here in Europe the big sucker filter is a NO, NO due to some stupid law, so we get the normal football shaped housing instead of the Big Sucker. Problem is that whatever I do, my leg is pushed outwards by the filter housing in such a way that there is no way I will reach the brake pedal directly by any means; I have to turn my ankle inwards in such a way that it makes it almost impossible to brake with the rear brake. If we add to that the fact that the front brake is anything but a good brake, I wonder what Harley expects us to do when hard braking is a must. I have thought of buying an anchor and chain, but I try to use the normal procedure if possible. So is it only me having problems with the rear brake pedal access or maybe someone has solved the problem some how or other.

I see no other way but bending the pedal outwards; what do you think?

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Yo may wish to consider what Guilty has done and install the SE filter shown in his photo.  The filter is moved forward and which will alow you to keep your leg closer to the tank and within eaasy reach of the pedal.  As an alternate I believe there are companies that make footpeg extensions for forward controls that will move the pedal out 3/4 in or so.
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Re: Brakes are bad, but rear brake pedal access is almost impossible
« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2008, 08:10:10 PM »

It's not a sport bike.Some foot movement is necessary,but not difficult to operate.The Heavy Breather sticks out somewhat but not a problem for me.Look at the bikes with floor boards,you would have to do a lot more to operate the brakes with that set up than the forward controls.
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Re: Brakes are bad, but rear brake pedal access is almost impossible
« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2008, 03:57:49 AM »

Drogers, we all agree that it isn't a racing bike, but if something is in the way that does not allow you to reach the pedal it is a totally different and dangerous situation. Twice now my foot has slippied from the tip of the pedal and I tell you that is not nice when you need braking hard.

Anyway as Barber and Guilty suggested I have ordered a set of Lyndall pads and the "Big Sucker". Pity about the filter though, because it does not come with the 110 inscribed on the end cap, just Screamin'Eagle written across it :-\

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Re: Brakes are bad, but rear brake pedal access is almost impossible
« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2008, 10:59:49 AM »

Drogers, we all agree that it isn't a racing bike, but if something is in the way that does not allow you to reach the pedal it is a totally different and dangerous situation. Twice now my foot has slippied from the tip of the pedal and I tell you that is not nice when you need braking hard.

Anyway as Barber and Guilty suggested I have ordered a set of Lyndall pads and the "Big Sucker". Pity about the filter though, because it does not come with the 110 inscribed on the end cap, just Screamin'Eagle written across it :-\

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That is a bummer, but it's still gonna look better than that . . . . . . . . . that funky thing on there now. :2vrolijk_21:

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Re: Brakes are bad, but rear brake pedal access is almost impossible
« Reply #8 on: February 24, 2008, 04:03:05 PM »

Fully agree with you 103tHunDer, but I bet many US owners would rather have the typical football dish than the ugly looking external filter; if only I could find someone to make a straight swap....Weatherwise is so much better you can't believe it, but  :soapbox: I just don't think anyone will trade their 110 sucker for this complete filter.

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Re: Brakes are bad, but rear brake pedal access is almost impossible
« Reply #9 on: May 24, 2008, 02:48:22 AM »

I am also having the same problem with the rear brake pedal.  My foot slips off, too.  I have the big filter.  I don't really like the looks, but everybody says I am crazy.

I bought a reach seat, and now I sit closer and the handlebars are much more comfortable.  But, now, I have my knee up against the air filter pipe and have to turn my foot left to really cover the rear brake.  It is not comfortable and not safe.

The one advantage of the reach seat is that it pushes me forward just enough so that the heat from the pipes is no longer a problem.

Any answers on peg extensions or something like that?
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Re: Brakes are bad, but rear brake pedal access is almost impossible
« Reply #10 on: May 24, 2008, 07:02:22 AM »

I agree w/ Spanish Flyer's view on the rear brake pedal placement.  Dealer advises it's fine.  My concern is for a panic stop.  Milliseconds count.  Oh well.  Forces one to stay in touch w/ the pedal.
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Re: Brakes are bad, but rear brake pedal access is almost impossible
« Reply #11 on: May 24, 2008, 07:38:55 AM »

I THINK YOU'LL LIKE THE LOOK OF THE HEAVY BREATHER, IT IS ANOTHER PART THAT GIVES THIS BIKE THE (MUSCLE CAR ) LOOK THAT WE ALL LOVE.AS FOR YOUR BRAKE PEDAL ISSUE I AM INSTALLING A 3 INCH EXTENSION KIT FOR THE CONTROLS WHICH WILL ALSO MOVE THEM OUT ALMOST AN INCH. THE KIT IS BY ARLEN NESS PART # 07-611  AND IS $200.00. I'LL LET YOU KNOW THE RESULTS AND YES THERE WILL BE PICTURES THIS TIME AS MY DAUGHTER IS HOME FROM COLLEGE AND CAN SHOW ME HOW ALL THIS POSTING OF PICTURES WORKS!
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Re: Brakes are bad, but rear brake pedal access is almost impossible
« Reply #12 on: May 24, 2008, 08:13:23 AM »

Hopefully you are not depending on your rear brake for a "panic stop"...

The front brake is where we get about 70 percent of our stopping power...

If you slam on just your rear brake in an emergency, the rear end will slide and attempt to pass the front.

This is the typical reason for "high siding" the bike in an emergency, the end result being a crash.

Not being able to reach the pedal is an issue, and should be corrcected, but the rear can be dangerous to you if it is being used as the only emergency stopping option!
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Re: Brakes are bad, but rear brake pedal access is almost impossible
« Reply #13 on: May 25, 2008, 05:04:29 AM »

Which part of Europe are you in.  The only thing I've ever known bikers being pulled for is the race pipes.  It may say in the parts manual - not street legal but honestly it's not even a factor with the police.
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Re: Brakes are bad, but rear brake pedal access is almost impossible
« Reply #14 on: May 26, 2008, 01:43:03 PM »

i donno what its like in ur country but i have removed the standard european a/c and fitted the heavy breather on my 07springer, the standard  a/c will have to b refitted temporarily when the mfk "road worthy inspection" comes up!

If u have a screaming eagle bike and ur air filter has screaming eagle or 110 printed on it what can the cops say!

I have to keep the standard european spec mufflers so i had installed a lil switch "mounted on the chrome hv ignition cover" that will keep the exhaust clapper valve in the open position or operate as factory spec.

As u say they r more worried about the exhaust pipes or do u have a valid "autobahn vignette".
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