I remember reading on another web forum several months ago about a group forming, led by a member attorney to file a class action against the MoCo. I guess it fizzled out. Probably one of those things when you get the locomotive moving don't let it slow down. Personally, and i know for a fact that the MoCo has agreed to take back problem 2007 CVO's under condition you purchase another Harley with your trade money. In instances I know of, full purchase less tax and license was credited tworads another bike. Anyone can accomplish this, it depends how determined you are to drive the dealer up the wall to get attention and your mind set on never wanting a CVO... It sure sounds like they are all 38K junk from all the forum talk. Im sitting on a 96 inch with fingers crossed, I hear they have probelms too,,, mostly crank issues. We'll see how long this one goes, And as for you Willie,, maybe you ought to let Honda buy you out... At least they have a decent water cooled to slap in these Ultra Pigs.