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5 CVO Models in 2006
« on: May 12, 2005, 09:15:07 PM »

I just got a loose wire that there will be five CVO models in 2006.  I also heard that there will be one model that there will only be a hundred made, one to each of the top 100 producing dealerships.

Unlike many of my posts early on (I put my name on it becaus of who I got my information from), I can not confirm or deny this claim.  All I can say is that it came to me from somebody in management level position in sales dept. of a dealership.
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Re: 5 CVO Models in 2006
« Reply #1 on: May 12, 2005, 09:34:27 PM »

I have heard maybe a full fairing, liquid cooled model could be in the work's??? [smiley=nixweiss.gif]
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Re: 5 CVO Models in 2006
« Reply #2 on: May 13, 2005, 01:01:19 AM »

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I have heard maybe a full fairing, liquid cooled model could be in the work's??? [smiley=nixweiss.gif]


Everytime I think about that idea the boys just tingle.  A high revving, high horse, loads of torque liquid cooled bagger.  The whole idea would have made me lose my lunch a couple of years ago.  I like it better and better all the time.

(And if a statement like that from a long time rider isn't just what some forward looking product analyst at HD is wet dreaming about than nothing is ever going to be.)
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Re: 5 CVO Models in 2006
« Reply #3 on: May 13, 2005, 01:06:36 AM »

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I just got a loose wire that there will be five CVO models in 2006.  I also heard that there will be one model that there will only be a hundred made, one to each of the top 100 producing dealerships.


Just for the sake of the guys that come next, I hope not.  There's much less that's special when half the product line is suddenly supposed to be special (ok, so five isn't "half" but you know what I mean).  And as for the "100 bikes," they'll be irrelevant as they'll never get ridden anyway.  They'll stay in a dealer's collection or glassed off in his showroom or they'll be stored in a buyer's garage or collection and most will rarely ever see pavement.  

There's a difference between special or custom "production" and production made solely for the purpose of being snotty or arrogant; "Show Off Production."  Show Off products are for advertising or folks that (usually) I wouldn't look forward to riding with anyway.  So it just doesn't interest me.
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Re: 5 CVO Models in 2006
« Reply #4 on: May 13, 2005, 03:17:52 AM »

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.....And as for the "100 bikes," they'll be irrelevant as they'll never get ridden anyway.  ... There's a difference between special or custom "production" and production made solely for the purpose of being snotty or arrogant; "Show Off Production."  Show Off products are for advertising or folks that (usually) I wouldn't look forward to riding with anyway. ...


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Re: 5 CVO Models in 2006
« Reply #5 on: May 13, 2005, 07:26:49 AM »

Two

Yea, and can you imagine the price even if a dealer would sell.
 
 How much over list for 1 of 100.

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Re: 5 CVO Models in 2006
« Reply #6 on: May 13, 2005, 08:43:27 AM »

i think this is a first for me JC i hope your source is 100% wrong.  after seeing the CVO lines in York they can currently only handle 2 models and i cant speak for the other factorys, i didnt realy like it when they went from 2 to 3 models, make being a CVO owner less exclusive( ok i didnt buy it to be exclusive ) but to jump to 5 modles [smiley=confused5.gif]
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Re: 5 CVO Models in 2006
« Reply #7 on: May 13, 2005, 08:56:22 AM »

It's taking the limit out of LIMITED!!! [smiley=nervous.gif]
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Re: 5 CVO Models in 2006
« Reply #8 on: May 13, 2005, 09:09:36 AM »

Let me again remind everyone.... HD doesn't care about limited (100th models anyone?).  

They care about making money.  The "limited" CVO models will go the way that the "limited" Harleys once did.  

They are overproducing.... and they will do the same to the CVOs...
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Re: 5 CVO Models in 2006
« Reply #9 on: May 13, 2005, 09:28:47 AM »

Don't forget, the CVO V-Rods were not made in York.

Where are Sportsters made?
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Re: 5 CVO Models in 2006
« Reply #10 on: May 13, 2005, 12:17:41 PM »

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Don't forget, the CVO V-Rods were not made in York.

Where are Sportsters made?

Kansas City, along with vrods [smiley=laugh.gif]
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Re: 5 CVO Models in 2006
« Reply #11 on: May 13, 2005, 01:29:37 PM »

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Let me again remind everyone.... HD doesn't care about limited (100th models anyone?).  ...They care about making money.  The "limited" CVO models will go the way that the "limited" Harleys once did.  They are overproducing.... and they will do the same to the CVOs... I guaaaaaarrrrranteeeeeee you.

DJW, please educate me.  What do you mean by the "The "limited" CVO models will go the way that the "limited" Harleys once did."   [smiley=nixweiss.gif]

I had once thought I would get a 100th ann something, but when the time came the number of production months and the colors made me change my mind.   [smiley=huepfenlol2.gif]
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Re: 5 CVO Models in 2006
« Reply #12 on: May 13, 2005, 03:02:03 PM »

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DJW, please educate me.  What do you mean by the "The "limited" CVO models will go the way that the "limited" Harleys once did."   [smiley=nixweiss.gif]

I had once thought I would get a 100th ann something, but when the time came the number of production months and the colors made me change my mind.   [smiley=huepfenlol2.gif]


Mrs.,

Remember when HDs were hard to get... and expensive?  
Not anymore... why? Overproduced!  

Someday we'll be saying remember when a CVO bike was hard to get, and expensive?  Why? Overproduced! [smiley=laugh.gif]

And take that damn kickstand off! [smiley=furious.gif] [smiley=laugh.gif]
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Re: 5 CVO Models in 2006
« Reply #13 on: May 13, 2005, 03:12:07 PM »

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There's a difference between special or custom "production" and production made solely for the purpose of being snotty or arrogant; "Show Off Production."  Show Off products are for advertising or folks that (usually) I wouldn't look forward to riding with anyway.  So it just doesn't interest me.


I think a lot of us would agree with you on this, Twolane.  But then again, there are many out there riding the "regular" production models that already feel that way about the CVO bikes and owners. [smiley=nixweiss.gif]

I think most of us buy them because it's what we really like and have the means to afford it.  That same may apply for one of us in regards to the 100 unit limited edition model (if and when it comes out).

But I'm in total agreement with DJW in regards to HD's goals and motivation.  There only concern is how to make that next buck and if that means polluting the market with many CVO models then they'll not hesitate.

I have mixed feelings.  I ride a bike that I love and that I think is special.  I'd like for it to stay "special".  However, on the other hand, I am a stock holder and I want HD to keep making the money...........I'm torn between two lovers, feelin like a fool........... [smiley=laugh.gif]
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Re: 5 CVO Models in 2006
« Reply #14 on: May 13, 2005, 04:16:49 PM »

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I think a lot of us would agree with you on this, Twolane.  But then again, there are many out there riding the "regular" production models that already feel that way about the CVO bikes and owners. [smiley=nixweiss.gif]  


Yeah, but they just don't know us yet.  If they knew us they'd love us because we're all sweet and cuddly and adorable and we have cool rides.


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I think most of us buy them because it's what we really like and have the means to afford it.  That same may apply for one of us in regards to the 100 unit limited edition model (if and when it comes out).


I agree that the same might apply.  In reality, however, if there's just a 100 pieces of something knocked out with the cachet that a "special production" Harley will be seen to have they'll never even make it to market.  At least not more than a very very few.  The MoCo is certainly all about maximizing profit.  And that's not a bad thing.  One might just hope they recognize that immediate profit is sometimes more expensive than that which would be gained from the longer term.



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I ride a bike that I love and that I think is special.  I'd like for it to stay "special".


And here I may have some separation from the pack.  In my mind every bike I've had has been special; at least after I've had it for awhile.  At least the bikes I didn't tear up when I was younger and stupider.  

The fact of this one being a CVO bike isn't what makes it special to me.  It's how it stands up after I've done what I wanted to do to it and how I feel about it.  Special because it's a CVO bike is far more an external measure based on HD's and everyone else's opinion.  Those may be important.  And to be courteous and friendly I'll recognize the extant opinions when curb racing with a great guy in a rally parking lot.  I really and truly will also appreciate his kind words and suggestions.  But, in reality, the only opinion that's really truly important about my bike is my own.  If it's special to me, well, that's good enough  [smiley=nixweiss.gif] .
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