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[NukeIT]

With the rapid inflation of diesel fuel prices, what do the calculations show for cost per mile versus the gasoline versions?  Even after factoring the higher initial cost for a diesel, there used to be a clearcut cost per mile advantage for diesels due to higher mpg and lower cost per gallon.  I haven't had cause to look at it recently, but your post got me thinking about it.  If the price gap of diesel to gasoline continues to widen, I've got a feeling that any advantage diesels had is going to evaporate, if it hasn't already. 

Jerry

I wish I could calculate cost per mile or even est. but I would assume pretty low, given VW track record for reliability, and durability,they have been making diesel motors for years that seem to keep on chugging with little to no maintenance.... to compare their gas motor jetta to their diesel, the gas motor gets an est. mid 20mpg rating / where as the diesel gets a est. mid 50mpg rating... this is a huge difference... there is not many cars out there besides a few hybrids that can do that, and remember this isn't some little tiny car, it is a decent size commuter....

Just my two cents but i don't think we are going to see a jump in diesel price that could make it more costly to operate it than its gas counterpart...

now for you full size truck guys it just sucks cause the gain in milage does not outweigh the price of fuel or maintenance so I agree with you.... sorry!!

[Hoist!]

Point being the Hybrids and Hi mileage vehicles should be cheaper, not a premium. There should be incentives to use these vehicles if anyone really GAS about oil availability! It's a SCAM!

Hoist!

[VAZHOG]

It's always been a Scam, The English are drilling off shore, the Chinese are drilling off shore near Cuba and know one is screaming about how close to Fla they are in the event of a spill. Harry Reid and the left (move-on.org) what to keep the US dependent on Overseas oil so they can lower our standard of living to the rest of the third world standards.

Keep Voting Democratic it's good for you and your children

[SBB]

Howie
       Buy the lovely Mrs a Honda Pacifica. Kinda like a scooter only much more refined and complete. Obviously it's a hybrid since it's missing a couple of wheels and a few other parts a more coventional Honda would have. Who knows, maybe she'll want her own H-D CVO model after a year or so of riding the Pacifica.

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BB

Is this what you mean?

http://charlotte.craigslist.org/mcy/687933423.html

 

[SPIDERMAN]

That's the deal Chip, but the price seems high. For $2k it'd be just the thing for Mrs Hoist.

B B

And Howie could ride bitch when Cybil was broke down

[SBB]

That's the deal Chip, but the price seems high. For $2k it'd be just the thing for Mrs Hoist.

B B

And Howie could ride bitch when Cybil was broke down

Does seem high, but to put it in perspective compared to what's invested in Cybil I think it's a bargain!
Hell if it was 18 instead of 28 I would buy it.

 

[SPIDERMAN]

Does seem high, but to put it in perspective compared to what's invested in Cybil I think it's a bargain!
Hell if it was 18 instead of 28 I would buy it.

 

Offer the guy 18 Chip and sell it to Howie for 22.

Once the truth got out you'd win the Chithead poll for sure 

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[NukeIT]

forget about a hybrid..

lookie here....http://www.teslamotors.com/




TN

looks alot like a lotus

[grc]

Point being the Hybrids and Hi mileage vehicles should be cheaper, not a premium. There should be incentives to use these vehicles if anyone really GAS about oil availability! It's a SCAM!

Hoist!

Howie, the auto companies aren't going to sell the hybrids at a loss just because the oil companies are raking in the big bucks, so I don't follow your logic.  Who should be providing the incentives?  Oil companies? (yeah, right)  Uncle Sam? (he's already broke)  

You know, it seems strange for the owner of a CVO to be bitching about the price of a hybrid.  Most hybrids are priced lower than a CVO, but the hybrid is a 12 month of the year vehicle fully equipped with all the modern accessories and safety features, and it carries more passengers and cargo.  Best of all, I haven't heard of any of the current brands having floppy crankshafts or recurring oil leaks, and you don't have to spend another $5k plus to make them run right. They also have real warranties.


Jerry  

[Gettinold]

Check the cost of maintenance on one. Can you do it. 

[110tHunDer]

Howie, the auto companies aren't going to sell the hybrids at a loss just because the oil companies are raking in the big bucks, so I don't follow your logic.  Who should be providing the incentives?  Oil companies? (yeah, right)  Uncle Sam? (he's already broke)  

You know, it seems strange for the owner of a CVO to be bitching about the price of a hybrid.  Most hybrids are priced lower than a CVO, but the hybrid is a 12 month of the year vehicle fully equipped with all the modern accessories and safety features, and it carries more passengers and cargo.  Best of all, I haven't heard of any of the current brands having floppy crankshafts or recurring oil leaks, and you don't have to spend another $5k plus to make them run right. They also have real warranties.


Jerry  

I think there is some tax deduction for purchasing a hybrid, or at least there used to be.  I remember my tax preparer asking me a couple of different times whether or not I'd purchased a hybrid the previous year.  My reply was the same: "No, but I do have two HEMIs and a Viper truck."

[SPIDERMAN]

Howie, the auto companies aren't going to sell the hybrids at a loss just because the oil companies are raking in the big bucks, so I don't follow your logic.  Who should be providing the incentives?  Oil companies? (yeah, right)  Uncle Sam? (he's already broke)  

You know, it seems strange for the owner of a CVO to be bitching about the price of a hybrid.  Most hybrids are priced lower than a CVO, but the hybrid is a 12 month of the year vehicle fully equipped with all the modern accessories and safety features, and it carries more passengers and cargo.  Best of all, I haven't heard of any of the current brands having floppy crankshafts or recurring oil leaks, and you don't have to spend another $5k plus to make them run right. They also have real warranties.

Jerry  

Jerry
       As usual, your logic is annoyingly um er ah  well logical I guess. When I read the above, I wonder how H-D manages to stay in business. Were any car company to operate as H-D has, they'd quickly be out of business.

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[grc]

Check the cost of maintenance on one. Can you do it. 

I can't speak for every model out there, but maintenance on most of them is very similar to the maintenance on their conventional siblings (oil, filters, coolant, belts, brakes, etc.).  The battery packs are covered by most manufacturers for 100,000 miles, so that potentially expensive bit of maintenance isn't something you would need to worry about for many many years. 

Jerry

[grc]

I think there is some tax deduction for purchasing a hybrid, or at least there used to be.  I remember my tax preparer asking me a couple of different times whether or not I'd purchased a hybrid the previous year.  My reply was the same: "No, but I do have two HEMIs and a Viper truck."

You're right Brian, there are tax credits for certain models and years.  The enabling legislation was set up to help encourage sales of hybrids by offering direct tax credits, but only until the particular vehicle achieved certain specified sales volumes.  Toyota has achieved the target volumes and therefore the credit has expired for their models, but there are several others that still have significant credits.

Go here for the full story:

http://www.irs.gov/newsroom/article/0,,id=157557,00.html

Jerry

[FLYNDYNA]

What it boils down to is Hybrids are more expensive than they should be, and the incentives could be alot better. They should also be producing more full-electrics with solar chargers, but as long as the oil companies are running things it will never happen. Why is it that corn liquor can be produced cheap, but we can't produce alcohol fuel for less than $5.50 a gallon? Why is it that there are so many untapped oil reserves at our disposal that will continue to go unused while our depenency on foreign fuels increases? Hoist has it right, it is all such a frigging scam...
thank goodness for the members of this site doing their part by riding CVO's whenever and wherever possible-

flyndyna