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Re: Vaule of a 1999 FXR2
« Reply #240 on: August 02, 2008, 09:05:03 PM »

Congratulations on purchase of fxr3 blue. Our club of owners of this bike seems to be growing! Looks like from photos that previous owner added quick detachable windshield, and larger sissy bar plus luggage rack. Did he also  have the stock parts? How many miles on her? Check tires if they are original for dry rot, small fine cracks..if it sat some time..this is common. i replaced my rear immediatly and my front is still in good shape. You'll enjoy riding this bike, very nimble and sturdy. i took mine back to 100% stock from the way the previous owner had it trimmed out.  Again ...welcome to the group!  Dave
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Re: Vaule of a 1999 FXR2
« Reply #241 on: August 02, 2008, 09:33:53 PM »

Great find, George.  Looks like it's amazingly unmolested.  The exhaust is stock including the slip-ons.  The sissy bar will be easy to return to stock if you want, but the taller one you have will come in handy if you want to attach a small bag.  That and the luggage rack.

About tires.  I recently replaced both of mine with the factory HD Dunlops, myself.  I know Metzelers and Avons are supposed to be better, but I've never had any reason to dislike the Dunlops.

Really nice bike.  Congratulations.
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Re: Vaule of a 1999 FXR2
« Reply #242 on: August 02, 2008, 10:14:06 PM »

Great find, George.  Looks like it's amazingly unmolested.  The exhaust is stock including the slip-ons.  The sissy bar will be easy to return to stock if you want, but the taller one you have will come in handy if you want to attach a small bag.  That and the luggage rack.

About tires.  I recently replaced both of mine with the factory HD Dunlops, myself.  I know Metzelers and Avons are supposed to be better, but I've never had any reason to dislike the Dunlops.

Really nice bike.  Congratulations.

Red, these bikes actually came with a smooth sidewall Dunlop Elite S/T new, but when I went to get a set for my 3 I learned they'd been discontinued.  I ended up going with the the Harley branded, serrated sidewall Dunlop D401s.  Tread pattern is similar, but the sidewalls are completely different.  I considered Michelins in hopes of maintaining the smooth sidewall appearance of the stock Dunlops, however, the parts book does not list a fitment for the front so the service guy at the dealer here said, "No can do."  I later found out Michelin does, in fact, have a front fitment available in a 100/90-19 size after meeting up with my buddy who has an '88 FXRT and seeing he has Michelin Commanders on his bike in the same sizes as my FXR3. :-\  Ah well, I kinda like the Harley logo on the side of the Dunlops, anyway. ;)
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Re: Vaule of a 1999 FXR2
« Reply #243 on: August 02, 2008, 11:17:09 PM »

Thanks Brian,Blaine, Dave,Hoist,Mike and Tim(alphabetic order,lol). Is changing to synthetic OK to do w/12,000mi? Harley said "NO" it will cause oil leaks. What do you think???? I want to change all the fluids and would like to use synthetic but I want to be sure it's OK.

Thanks for all the congratulations. You guys are great!,George
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Re: Vaule of a 1999 FXR2
« Reply #244 on: August 03, 2008, 12:20:10 AM »

George....

It's a beautiful bike, congratulations!!!!! 

I am running Redline 20-50w oil, Redline shockproof tranny fluid, and Redline MTL for the primary.

Let's see some great photos of it on the ground with the front wheel straight of course.....with 12,000 miles I would be changing the fork oil in it as well thiis fall when things calm down. 

When I received my bike I went ahead and changed both tires immediately....I just wanted to start with a clean slate.....I put on metzler's but I have been hearing some not so great things about Metzlers this Spring about how their quality has gone down since they have been coming from a facility out of Brazil....so I am not sure what I would do for which brand....I run dunlops on my 2002 RKC....I probably would go back to Dunlops the next time if the same information about the Metzlers is out there when I need a new tire.....

Your probably out there in the garage right now sitting.............................................. well forget it....lol

ENJOY!!!!

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Re: Vaule of a 1999 FXR2
« Reply #245 on: August 03, 2008, 07:12:56 AM »

Thanks Tim, You know I value your opionions/advise. I guess I'll probably stay with the Dunlops. I really don't like to mix threads. I probably will take more pics today. The bike fits in the shed and no alteration is necessary but I think I'm going to have it openned on the side anyway. I think it will be easier to drive in and out plus maybe I could leave the Ultra in there too.  I have the origional backrest but he forgot to bring the windshield and second key. He said he will send them. A buddy of mine has a friend that might be interested in the Ultra and I recieved an e-mail from the guy with the FXR2-Arresting Red. Wouldn't that be nice having both? I love that Red. It's a beautiful color and has 2,200mi. I'm not sure he'll go for the $11K anymore. It's a tough decision to give up the Ultra. Already I'm thinking where am I going to put my stuff on the new bike, lol. As I rode the bike around the block it handled really good. It seems like it's an easy bike to ride. I hope I don't get crazy with it, lol. It's very light and agile. I think I'll be the first on line tomorrow at the DMV to register it, lol.  I can't wait to really take a ride on it. Well, I'll send the Pics ASAP. Thanks for your advise. I think I'm going to have to meet up with Hoist- but a tire and fluid changes are first. Best, G.
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Re: Vaule of a 1999 FXR2
« Reply #246 on: August 03, 2008, 10:24:12 AM »

Already I'm thinking where am I going to put my stuff on the new bike

George....

Well....without "pouncing" on you about what you might do with your "stuff" I will include a thread that I shared on a different website a about 16 months ago on this very topic....within this thread I shared a couple of projects I became involved with and specifically one which addresses where to place the "stuff".  One alternative of course is simply to locate a T~Bag and attach to the back for bigger trips of course, another option for daily riding is using a rack and then getting a much smaller T~Bag for the back, and of course this option involving saddlebags, by the time you are finished with this option it's around a $700.00 solution after all is said and done.  I personally found this solution to be "historically" interesting since it was originally implemented for four years on the 1989 - 1992 FXRSC-CONV Low Rider Convertible bikes....here is the thread to take a peek at if you so desire:

http://groups.msn.com/HarleyTechTalk/evo1340.msnw?action=get_message&ID_Message=1123373&ShowDelete=0&CDir=-2

Of course not everyone appreciates this as an alternative...just offering it up to you as well as others as a potentially viable solution, the best thing about this as a solution is that the bags can be removed and no references to their being on your bike are obtrusive to the presentation of the bike when they are off.

Like I said not trying to "pounce" on everything you state......just merely offering up some alternatives because as you said, you are......"Already I'm thinking where am I going to put my stuff on the new bike......" and you are going to love riding the bike so the need to have stuff stored somewhere on the bike for those particular days will always be present......well at least for me I don't want my FXR2 to merely become a "day rider" I like going places with it as well, which is the whole purpose of the bike.....and we all know that's what makes the "baggers" / "touring" bikes so accommodating the ability to "carry things".

Regards,

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Re: Vaule of a 1999 FXR2
« Reply #247 on: August 03, 2008, 10:28:13 AM »

 
Hey, George, all the talk about how great these bike are and all . . . . did the seller say why he wanted to let the bike go?
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Re: Vaule of a 1999 FXR2
« Reply #248 on: August 03, 2008, 10:35:24 AM »

 
BTW . . . D@mn, a 19-page thread and still growing here in the FXR section.  Gonna be awhile before this once gets surpassed!
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Re: Vaule of a 1999 FXR2
« Reply #249 on: August 03, 2008, 10:52:21 AM »

Already I'm thinking where am I going to put my stuff on the new bike

George....

Well....without "pouncing" on you about what you might do with your "stuff" I will include a thread that I shared on a different website a about 16 months ago on this very topic....within this thread I shared a couple of projects I became involved with and specifically one which addresses where to place the "stuff".  One alternative of course is simply to locate a T~Bag and attach to the back for bigger trips of course, another option for daily riding is using a rack and then getting a much smaller T~Bag for the back, and of course this option involving saddlebags, by the time you are finished with this option it's around a $700.00 solution after all is said and done.  I personally found this solution to be "historically" interesting since it was originally implemented for four years on the 1989 - 1992 FXRSC-CONV Low Rider Convertible bikes....here is the thread to take a peek at if you so desire:

http://groups.msn.com/HarleyTechTalk/evo1340.msnw?action=get_message&ID_Message=1123373&ShowDelete=0&CDir=-2

Of course not everyone appreciates this as an alternative...just offering it up to you as well as others as a potentially viable solution, the best thing about this as a solution is that the bags can be removed and no references to their being on your bike are obtrusive to the presentation of the bike when they are off.

Like I said not trying to "pounce" on everything you state......just merely offering up some alternatives because as you said, you are......"Already I'm thinking where am I going to put my stuff on the new bike......" and you are going to love riding the bike so the need to have stuff stored somewhere on the bike for those particular days will always be present......well at least for me I don't want my FXR2 to merely become a "day rider" I like going places with it as well, which is the whole purpose of the bike.....and we all know that's what makes the "baggers" / "touring" bikes so accommodating the ability to "carry things".

Regards,

Tim

Great writeup in that other forum about converting to a Convertible Tim! But that's what you do, great writeups! :2vrolijk_21:

Had a '95 Dyna Convertible. Bags mounted very similar on the fender struts. Not sure on the FXR Convertibles, but the Dyna came deraked at 28 deg, taller front forks and rear shocks. Bike sat very high, but had fantastic lean angle. Best lean angle HD ever offered next to Sportsters. Bike handled fantastic, especially after I had a special set of WP shocks made for it.

Have a friend that went to convert his '00 Dyna to a convertibe (bags only like you did). He got the parts list and found the parts, but they changed stuff from the '95 to '00 and it still doesn't fit. He's looking now at what he can modify to make the stuff work. He had to buy a new rear fender and struts too. Turned into a hornet's nest of a project. I guess the FXR's are the same enough to just add the convertible option to it. You barely notice it on your bike with bags off! Nice job! ;)

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Re: Vaule of a 1999 FXR2
« Reply #250 on: August 03, 2008, 02:30:15 PM »

Hoist~~~

Great writeup in that other forum about converting to a Convertible Tim! But that's what you do, great writeups!

Thank you Hoist....I appreciate your comments!!!.....In the beginning of my Harley experience I was on the other end, the "guy" wanting information.....and so often as it turns out only half of the info gets written about so my goal is to at least provide the entire "concept".....it does make for "long" posts but perhaps it's helpful to someone like me down the way.....lol

Had a '95 Dyna Convertible. Bags mounted very similar on the fender struts. Not sure on the FXR Convertibles, but the Dyna came deraked at 28 deg, taller front forks and rear shocks. Bike sat very high, but had fantastic lean angle. Best lean angle HD ever offered next to Sportsters. Bike handled fantastic, especially after I had a special set of WP shocks made for it. Have a friend that went to convert his '00 Dyna to a convertibe (bags only like you did). He got the parts list and found the parts, but they changed stuff from the '95 to '00 and it still doesn't fit. He's looking now at what he can modify to make the stuff work. He had to buy a new rear fender and struts too. Turned into a hornet's nest of a project.

Actually what your friend is trying to do is something I wouldn't even attempt....the three points of contact that the FXRS-CONV Low Rider Convertible are truly "specific" to that particular frame, the Dyna is a different frame as we are all aware of so without huge amounts of modification it would INDEED be a difficult project.  I am not saying it would be impossible because with enough creativeness and detail and welding techniques anything is possible....but he is attempting to do something while quite interesting is going to find some extra work to accomplish as you HAVE already noted!!!!!

I guess the FXR's are the same enough to just add the convertible option to it. You barely notice it on your bike with bags off! Nice job!
Actually Hoist, the key is the FXR frame and specifically since the FXR frame throughout the life of the FXR has never been modified by HD then making the modification or alterations from a 1988-1992 FXRS-CONV Low Rider Convertible is only a matter of acquiring the parts and making some alterations to the turn signals....In fact if you look closely to the turn signals for the 1988-1992 FXRS-CONV Low Rider Convertible bikes, I have never liked the turn signal set up....it's a bit "funky" for me they are in my opinion attached to, too long of a light bar which makes them hang out too wide...so the alterations I made are a huge improvement, @ least in my mind lol.... NOW FOR A PERSON such as George or anyone else that owns the FXR3 or FXR4 model that wishes to run this set up will require another alteration....and that is purchasing a second set of "plastic" side panels as the FXR3 and FXR4 side panels are of course much larger than those of an FXR2 or for that matter of an 1988-1992 FXRS-CONV Low Rider Convertible and as we all realize would require some modifications or perhaps going back to a set of FXR2 "type" side panels....With enough detail I would imagine that one could alter a FXR3 or FXR4 plastic side panel appropriately and make it work....if you look closely one of the three points of contact would actually be beneath the cover panel of an FXR3 or FXR4, requiring one to drill through a plastic cover.  Because these three points of contact remain stationary even while the bags are off the bike, in order to use the larger plastic side covers of the FXR3 or FXR4 would indeed require manipulation of the surface to allow such to occur. 

So without a doubt yes indeed that's why I can use the "specific" set up of an 1988-1992 FXRS-CONV Low Rider Convertible because the frames are identicle....It should be noted that the bags are difficult to find, not impossible but difficult indeed, the hardware is quite easy to find......but with enough tenacity and desire as well as patience the project can be successfully completed....It should be noted also with enough ingenuity one wouldn't be limited to the above such project either, as one could find or make any bags if they so desired....it's just that I was after sort of keeping the "theme" of the FXR intact with what HD did during the years of the FXR being built....sort of like taking "elements" of certain aspects of history and implementing them....

By the way the bags go on in 7 minutes total and come off in 7 minutes.....but once they are on...it's like...well I have a coat, I have rain gear, I have some tools, I have a bottle of water, I have etc.....and pretty much they just stay on....thus it becomes "function" over "form" lol......

Pssst if anyone decides they are motivated to do such a project send me a private e~mail for one or two additional tips....which at this point wouldn't matter if you weren't interested in doing them but would matter if you chose to do the project....just some safety tips with the bags.....

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Re: Vaule of a 1999 FXR2
« Reply #251 on: August 03, 2008, 02:30:42 PM »

(continued from previous post)

You know Hoist that's what is so cool about these FXR's....if you see a particular year or model and you like elements from that "particular" year or model because the FXR frame has never been altered one can implement anything they see on to their bike....for example.....I like the looks of the "split tank" appearance, which is what we have on our FXR2's, FXR3's and FXR4's.  This "split tank appearance was first presented on the 1988 FXRS Low Rider and continued until the model was no longer offered, the last year for the FXRS Low Rider was 1992. Prior to 1988 the FXRS Low Rider had a different tank set up as well.  I happen to like the fuel gauge on the left and the filler gauge on the right as well as the instruments being housed on the center of the tank.  In 1988-1992 the FXRS Low Rider tank panel and the instrument housing were done in "wrinkle" black....I am looking at making this modification as well to my FXR2....as I am "tiring" of the "chrome reflection" into my eyes from the trim panel not to mention how it eventually get's scratched up and begins looking "worn".  This would be the same sort of finish we see on the Dyna Low Riders as well...in "wrinkle" black. If anyone is interested in what I am talking about take a peek at the 1992 FXRS Low Rider photos in the HISTORY OF FXR thread replies 108-111.  You will see what I am referring to here if you like.
Also just one other little detail if one were to look at "reply" #32 of this thread: http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=22663.0;all you can see another option that someone used of a Tangerine 2000 FXR4, what is being used here for the "trim panel" is a Mustang Trim Bib, which can at this time be purchased for $50.00. You will notice it's a bit wider than the "OEM" "wrinkle" black trim panel used on the 1988-1992 FXRS Low Rider's however, also notice that this particular owner kept the "chrome" instrument housing in tact.  It's perhaps another option someone might apply.  My purpose is to point out the "suttle" differences that are always available to our bikes if we wish to explore. 

Another option of course is that the FXR4's "sport" dual disc brakes up front, it's been said that dual discs for these bikes create an approximate 12% quicker stopping distance as compared to the single disc braking systems with similar rotors.  So recently as of this spring, my buddy and I went from the "evo" braking system on our FXR's (He has the 3 and I of course the 2) to putting a "chromed" Performance Machine Caliper on our bikes....indeed the result is a much quicker stopping distance peformance with this brake vs that of the OEM evo style brake caliper.  I would say there is another 5-6% left if we were to have put dual disc brakes on our bikes....but at what cost?????  The evo brakes perform with the lightness of these FXR's admirably we would all agree, but the performance machine caliper for the front only with "cintered" pads perform even better....

So what's my point, my point is if someone were to desire to put dual discs on their FXR2 or FXR3 they could go back to a wheel from one of the previous FXR models that would match up with bolt pattern and axle sizes for applicable application....and of course finally if there is something you wish to modify on your FXR stick to the years of the FXR built bikes to reach the easiest level of success in terms of alterations and modifications.  It goes without saying of course that all of us are or will be facing the need to be a bit more creative in acquiring such parts for these bikes, but that too makes this "hobby" even more fun....the hunt and find....just ask George about the "hunt and find"....and he SCORES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  LOL

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« Reply #252 on: August 03, 2008, 03:20:47 PM »

Thanks Tim! Another fantastic, deatailed writeup! :2vrolijk_21:

You mention the '87 FXLR a lot so I thought it appropriate I direct you to the pics of my Pro Street. As you can see, I built it with many parts from an '87 FXLR. Tank (no bib, finished the tank instead), one pc FXLR bars w/built-in risers and dual gauges, single disc front end w/chrome lowers. The brakes are all PM now. The signals are on only to get a VIN. They'll be gone as soon as I get it. Supertrapp 2:1 w/racing end cap from a '88 FXR. Note the 3.25-19 ME Lasertech front tire. I used a ME-1 160/70-VB16 rear. I run a rear chain, not a belt. Most of this build utilizes standard FXR HD parts, or better hot-rodded racing chit like ya'll know I love! The entire drivetrain setup is '87 FXLR. It uses an 89" S&S motor w/'87 HD 5-speed and Rivera Pro Clutch, and FXLR primary setup. This era FXR had the early style diaphragm clutch, so more clutch surface was a must. The Rivera is 300% more surface than stock. Stronger spring too. Clutch doesn't slip at all. The crappy Hitachi starter from that vintage was replaced with a 1.4 KW All Balls unit. The best thing about it is it only weighs about 425 lbs! This thing flies! Thought you guys might want to revisit it, and see how it compliments the HD FXR. ;)

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Re: Vaule of a 1999 FXR2
« Reply #253 on: August 03, 2008, 03:43:21 PM »

Hoist~~~

the best front street bike tire to use is the ME Lasertech front tire. Nothing like it in 19" or 21". Great front tire. You can use your Dunlop rear, or another good ME rear, and it won't impact the ME Laser front. They don't have a matching rear that I know of. It's strictly a front tire. Been running it on 19" and 21" street bike front wheels for years. I won't run any other front tire on a street bike!

Ok....without turning this wonderful thread into a specific discussion about "tires" I noted what you stated above and now as a result have seen the tire on your pro street, but I would like to know more about the tire and why you feel so strongly about it....I am assuming that "ME" stands for "Metzler"?  Would this be correct, apparently I missed the classroom discussion ( :nixweiss:) on this tire by "Metzler" so I would like to know more about it....inclusive of why you can run this tire regardless of what goes on the back, also just curious about that.

By the way isn't there something to be said for a "black" harley.....it's "stance" your "Pro Street" has a "beautiful" stance in black......that's for sure...."also", a very nice job on the pro street!!!!

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« Reply #254 on: August 03, 2008, 03:55:39 PM »

Hoist~~~

the best front street bike tire to use is the ME Lasertech front tire. Nothing like it in 19" or 21". Great front tire. You can use your Dunlop rear, or another good ME rear, and it won't impact the ME Laser front. They don't have a matching rear that I know of. It's strictly a front tire. Been running it on 19" and 21" street bike front wheels for years. I won't run any other front tire on a street bike!

Ok....without turning this wonderful thread into a specific discussion about "tires" I noted what you stated above and now as a result have seen the tire on your pro street, but I would like to know more about the tire and why you feel so strongly about it....I am assuming that "ME" stands for "Metzler"?  Would this be correct, apparently I missed the classroom discussion ( :nixweiss:) on this tire by "Metzler" so I would like to know more about it....inclusive of why you can run this tire regardless of what goes on the back, also just curious about that.

By the way isn't there something to be said for a "black" harley.....it's "stance" your "Pro Street" has a "beautiful" stance in black......that's for sure...."also", a very nice job on the pro street!!!!

Regards,

Tim



Thanks so much Tim! Appreciate the kind comments on the PS! :2vrolijk_21:

Yes Tim, ME stands for Metzler. I was looking for a better handling tire than the Dunlops for my Dyna years ago. Tried a few until on stumbled on the Lasertech (used to go by the name Laser only). This is kinda an oddball tire. No matching rear that I know of. ME would recommend various model rears to use with it. But it made the bike handle like never before. The one on my PS is made in Germany, not Brazil. Since I tried it on my Dyna, I've never used anything else on the front of a street bike (except when I had a blowout on my WG and could only get an oversized Avon for the front). I use one size over stock in both 19 and 21. The bike handles GREAT with this front tire matched with a good rear tire. I use an ME1 rear on the Pro Street with it. Wish they made one for the SERK! :2vrolijk_21:

Hoist! 8)
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