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Re: Dedicated CVO Customer Service Hotline.
« Reply #75 on: September 23, 2008, 10:52:43 AM »

I read this topic last night and thought about it all day. I really want to add my $.02.
A dedicated hotline for CVO owners may seem like a good idea (especially for CVO Owners) but is it really? There is already a huge divide between the haves and have not's. Creating more services for the haves will only serve to widen this gap.  Just because I had a few extra dollars, and choose to use it to buy a fancy motorcycle doesn't mean I am more deserving than the kid who bought his first sporty. Should CVO owners also get to bump non CVO owners for service? I say NO! We should all get the same crappy service.

That sure sounds to me like socialist thinking. I would be nice if everyone got the same GOOD treatment and service but we all know it doesn't happen. In many parts of life "rank has it's privilege"  and it's that fact that makes many of us strive to make more money,get a promotion or some other move to increase our status or benefits in life.
I hate the socialistic way of thinking in that they want those with assets to feel guilty of working hard to obtain their possessions or status. In that way of thinking we would all be driving Toyota Prius hybrids for the good of everyone No need to have more luxurious vehicles or more high performance since not everyone can have it.
This divide that is talked about is actually created by the MOCO when they have the CVO line as a separate assembly procedure and they promote the CVO line as the best of the best. Then they do provide CVO specific parts and accessories like the gold key etc. So with that train of thought all CVO owners should give up their "extras" since it will make the "average" Harley owners feel bad about being one of the left out crowd. Harley may not say the CVO owner is above the average owner but they definitely protray the CVO bike as above average.
Also FYI I am not rich and had to save for years to get what I thought was a better bike for a fair price and that I would not have to spend much more money to get it to my version of a touring bike. I had a 1997 fatboy for 9 years and never had a breakdown and only work was normal maintenance. Now my "improved" hand built "top of the line" bike has broken down and has had a recall. Yes it's a more complicated bike.
I do love the look, sound and feel of my Harley and it is hard to think of ever giving it up but for riders who look at bikes as just economical transportation it is hard to sell them on the idea of a Harley. They buy bikes at 1/3 the cost with twice the horsepower and never have to spend thousands of dollars to get them to run right off the showroom floor.
I know in an earlier post someone compaired the Harley to an old muscle car and some folks would rather drive an old hotrod vs. a new sports car even if the new one is better. I understand that thinking too in that the older car has a spirit to it like a Harley. But also think about that era too. Those cars could be ordered with all the options you wanted from the factory.(No massive parts catalogue to add stuff later) and those high performance cars ran like any car of the day maybe faster but not less dependable.
Think of it this way, would you buy a new Corvette ZR1 at $60,000 (guess) and then have to spend money so it wouldn't overheat at a stoplight? Or a new luxury vehicle with a 600 page parts catalogue since you paid big bucks and didn't get all the features or options available?
I think the MOCO should have a separate CVO service and contact number maybe even a 10% discount on parts card if they continue to promote the CVO line as the best of the best kinda thing.It would reward those with a larger commitment to the MOCO. If it makes other Harley owners envious then all they have to do is work hard and buy a CVO.
Having said all of this I don't think owning a CVO makes a person better than another, just a person who is more committed to Harley ownership.
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Re: Dedicated CVO Customer Service Hotline.
« Reply #76 on: September 23, 2008, 11:14:55 AM »

We could carry this a step or so further than just a separate customer service line:

Separate dealer showrooms & service bays for CVO bikes required by HD.  No regular HD dealer for the CVO family of discriminating buyers. Lavish, luxurious, and decadent.

For service, our bikes are picked up by temperature controlled enclosed trailers & whisked away to the lavish CVO service area where the bikes are gone over in complete detail by techs with a PHD equivalency in motorcycle repair & maintenance.  Then they are returned to our abode via same trailer - full of gas, washed, waxed, detailed, with a 347 point inspection report indicating each & every service the bike required.

Or if we rode them into the CVO dealer for service, fetching wenches clad in bike week type attire would serve us free cold or hot beverages, plus a gourmet chef would prepare a made to order epicurean feast to our liking, also free of charge.  Full body massage rooms would be complimentary as well as dry cleaning, laundry, boot shines, and cigars of our choosing.  As we ride out of the bay upon service completion, the dealer's entire staff would surround us to applaud our successful repair/service & to wish us a safe journey.  A police escort would be available to stop traffic & allow us to proceed for the first 30 miles from the CVO dealership unimpeded by traffic signals & the like.  Upon arriving home, a dealer valet would be waiting to wipe down the bike in great detail & to make sure that everything on the bike is as expected.  No tipping allowed.

I probably forgot something, but that's a rough outline for the MoCo to pattern this after.

























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Re: Dedicated CVO Customer Service Hotline.
« Reply #77 on: September 23, 2008, 01:37:28 PM »

Ladies & Gentlemen, I appreciate all the input and truly wish it would make some difference.
However, I am of the opinion our desires are the least of MoCo's concerns. Further, once critical mass in numbers is reached or interest diminishes, they will discontinue the so called CVO line and matrices all the options into a "fully equipped model" ordered from the factory. The "hand-built" by a group of very special people we all know is a bunch of bull chit. The new touring frame is now advertised as being "highly accurate robotic welded." Handwriting on the wall for all to see.
I love the new model advertising; "NEW GENERATION TOURING"
. Wheelbase increased for greater highway comfort
. New engine mount for less powertrain vibration
. Front-end geometry trail increased by .7" to make the ride more responsive
. Increased gross weight
Where has all this innovation and improvements been year after year?
We know the real answer to this.

Again, thank's for all the input.
Ciao,
Ron
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Re: Dedicated CVO Customer Service Hotline.
« Reply #78 on: September 23, 2008, 01:47:52 PM »

I disagree Ron.  Our wishes and desires are what the folks at HD are seeking to fulfill, in their own way.

If they fail in that product offering, the company will shrink in size & sell out or cease to exist.

Some folks like the new HD products & buy them, others do not & buy elsewhere.

I fail to see why anything like a "CVO" hotline or special Customer Service phone line or contact for CVO owners makes a WHIT of difference in this regard.
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