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Re: Six Speed Side Cover Question
« Reply #60 on: November 30, 2008, 11:44:47 PM »


You've never been one afraid to experiment - thought about getting out the die grinder? You have to use it anyway for the case, whats a little more grinding?


Duane, in different circumstances I would have.  If for no other reason than just to see how much hassle was involved in making it work.  But Greg had fixed me up with a six speed side cover for cheap.  It had been an eBay score of his.  Then I saw the gear set I ended up buying for less than $900 on eBay.  In the end I had the whole kit for about 50% of the just the gear set cost.  At that point it was hardly worth it to go cutting up otherwise good parts just to save a little bit.  If memory serves I also was just in the wrong mood to mess with it that night...
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Re: Six Speed Side Cover Question
« Reply #61 on: November 30, 2008, 11:47:53 PM »

Sorry to hear that...  I'll assume you are getting proper medical attention...  Take care of yourself.    Old guys like you don't bounce back so fast... ::) :P

Working on it.  The stupid quack doctor wanted me in hospital for a couple of days.  I'm sure it was just a medical test to see if I had enough stamina to stand up and raise my voice a little.  After that was proved he sent me home with some Rx and said not to chase cars or howl at the moon without a coat on for a week or so.
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Re: Six Speed Side Cover Question
« Reply #62 on: November 30, 2008, 11:49:12 PM »

Brian doesn't loek 6 speeds  :P

No, he does not.  Brian doesn't like anything you can't fix with duct tape or clean with oven cleaner ??? .







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Re: Six Speed Side Cover Question
« Reply #63 on: December 01, 2008, 01:05:18 AM »


Brian doesn't loek 6 speeds 

No, he does not.  Brian doesn't like anything you can't fix with duct tape or clean with oven cleaner ??? .


(sorry Brian, Merry Christmas :santa: )

Boy that one wasn't even close
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Re: Six Speed Side Cover Question
« Reply #64 on: December 01, 2008, 01:05:56 AM »

In the end I had the whole kit for about 50% of the just the gear set cost. 


You still suck  :oops:
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Re: Six Speed Side Cover Question
« Reply #65 on: December 01, 2008, 01:14:36 AM »

You still suck  :oops:

Stop that.  My chest hurts when you make me laugh :huepfenlol2: .
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Re: Six Speed Side Cover Question
« Reply #66 on: December 01, 2008, 07:00:55 AM »

Trust me, as much as I like a good conspiracy theory there is absolutely no difference between the 6 speed in your CVO and the one in that TC96, they are all Cruise Drives with the exact same internal ratios.  The difference you can feel with the '09 versus the '07 and '08 is due to a two tooth change in the rear wheel sprocket, and possibly to a difference in the circumference of the rear wheel (still not sure since I still haven't found any specs for diameter/circumference of the new 18" tire).

Jerry

Great info there, Jerry.  So.......do you think it is better to change the drive gearing (either primary or secondary........or both) when converting an older bike to a six speed transmission?
I'm just asking because I'm hearing that elsewhere besides here.  That sixth gear will kill a motor at low rpm.
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Re: Six Speed Side Cover Question
« Reply #67 on: December 01, 2008, 07:54:52 AM »

Great info there, Jerry.  So.......do you think it is better to change the drive gearing (either primary or secondary........or both) when converting an older bike to a six speed transmission?
I'm just asking because I'm hearing that elsewhere besides here.  That sixth gear will kill a motor at low rpm.

Before my 06 left the dealer, I changed the gearing to 3.37 and added a SE 6 speed. To me, it's the perfect set up. Some think it's a waste of money to lower the gearing, then add a 6 spd to raise it back up. I wanted a little more umph from the 103 without any mods and this set up has been perfect for me. Even if I wanted to make engine upgrades, the 3.37 and 6 spd make for a nice cruising combo, especially in the wide open spaces of Texas. 
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Re: Six Speed Side Cover Question
« Reply #68 on: December 01, 2008, 08:44:27 AM »

Stop that.  My chest hurts when you make me laugh :huepfenlol2: .


Double  :oops: - forgot about the big P. Been there - done that and know how you feel hurt.

Hope your at least on the downside.

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Re: Six Speed Side Cover Question
« Reply #69 on: December 01, 2008, 08:46:16 AM »

I changed the gearing to 3.37 and added a SE 6 speed.


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Re: Six Speed Side Cover Question
« Reply #70 on: December 01, 2008, 12:39:15 PM »

Double  :oops: - forgot about the big P. Been there - done that and know how you feel hurt.

Hope your at least on the downside.

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Read an email from Sean this AM.  The coins should be here this week.  Soon as I have them in hand will post up all the new handling info and let you know.
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Re: Six Speed Side Cover Question
« Reply #71 on: December 01, 2008, 04:06:35 PM »

Before my 06 left the dealer, I changed the gearing to 3.37 and added a SE 6 speed. To me, it's the perfect set up. Some think it's a waste of money to lower the gearing, then add a 6 spd to raise it back up. I wanted a little more umph from the 103 without any mods and this set up has been perfect for me. Even if I wanted to make engine upgrades, the 3.37 and 6 spd make for a nice cruising combo, especially in the wide open spaces of Texas. 

Exactly what is being done to my machine.
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Re: Six Speed Side Cover Question
« Reply #72 on: December 06, 2008, 05:51:14 PM »

Interesting and very well respected and noted observation, Brian.  So, would the same hold true if changing to a lower primary gear with the six speed and using the 6th gear only on highways at speeds greater than or equal to 70 mph?

Sorry Henry...forgot all about this thread....

changing to a 3.36  is what you need to do IMHO when changing to a 6 speed. It helps in someone not shifting into 6th gear at too low of RPM's which kills these motors.

Now we are back to how much money are we going to spend and how many times are you REALLY going to benefit for the changes you have made. Nice Hyabusa about now :huepfenlol2:

My 02 has that set up in it....3.36 and 6 speed.....I can speak from a little experience that with the motor combination!!!!! and gearing.....it is a nice combination......was it worth it.....Not really.....could have spent that 3K on something for the boat or a Bushtec trailer
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Re: Six Speed Side Cover Question
« Reply #73 on: December 06, 2008, 05:52:59 PM »

No, he does not.  Brian doesn't like anything you can't fix with duct tape or clean with oven cleaner ??? .







(sorry Brian, Merry Christmas :santa: )

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Re: Six Speed Side Cover Question
« Reply #74 on: December 06, 2008, 06:04:25 PM »

Brian doesn't like 6 speeds  :P

It is not that I don't like 6 speeds....the majority of people do harm to their motors by shifting into 6th gear at too low of a RPM.

So now that we NEED that 6 speed gear box we have to change the gearing to 3.36 to make the drivetrain a workable combination.

So what are we trying to accomplish.....better fuel mileage...you get on average 3 mpg better mileage by changing to a 6 speed, how many miles does one have to ride to have the change pay for itself....

longer motor life.....which most of us will change bikes before we wear out the motor.....

so IMHO leave well enough alone and ride your scoot till  you get a new one :2vrolijk_21:
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