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[Twolanerider]

You guys funny GIs .

[BLM777]

You guys funny GIs .

Don't even go there .........

[Twolanerider]

Don't even go there .........

Aw, c'mon, you know there's a whole schtick that follows that line.  I won't believe it if you said you'd never watched PI burlesque .

[iski]

Well, the spark plug guru actually hires 3,428 workers & pays them $1.12 a day to make 20,000 plugs a day each by machine.  Then he hand selects 2 every couple of months & sez - "perfect match".

something like that......

[BLM777]

Aw, c'mon, you know there's a whole schtick that follows that line.  I won't believe it if you said you'd never watched PI burlesque .

Yup...starting to come back to me now.....eventually gets to "me love you long time, GI"   

[Twolanerider]

Yup...starting to come back to me now.....eventually gets to "me love you long time, GI"   

And a Merry Christmas to you too .

[miker]

  5 dolla no holla???

[BLM777]

  5 dolla no holla???

Only sometimes .... 

[grc]

So you think also that the SE-spark plugs are not necessary , and that they are not better ( just a little little little bit ) ?

Better than what?  Better than a kick in the balls maybe, but if you expect to see some magical performance boost to justify the big price difference you need to look elsewhere.  Maybe one of those Fitch fuel catalysts.

Platinum does not produce a superior spark that unleashes additional power, no matter what some ad writer intimates.  What it actually does is extend the useful life of the plug because it erodes much slower than the conventional electrode material.  Less erosion means less gap growth and lower voltage requirements over time.  This is what allows auto manufacturers to specify 50,000 to 100,000 mile service intervals.  As for the split ground electrode, since the spark only jumps to the one with the lowest voltage requirement, it's not like you're getting two sparks for the price of one.  It was a bunch of marketing hype when the Split Fire folks first started selling it years ago, and adding a little platinum doesn't make it less of a hype.  If you want to "unshroud" the spark, just index the stock plugs.  Or go with the ultimate unshrouded plug, a surface gap design.

If you change plugs on a yearly basis like many of us anal idiots, you will just be throwing away a lot of extra cash with the SE plugs.  If on the other hand you routinely change your plugs only during engine overhauls, by all means go with the platinum or iridium plugs.  I personally recommend the NGK Iridium rather than the SE for those who feel the need to upgrade.

Jerry

[miker]

I just change the cheapos every 5k...

[Talon]

Better than what?  Better than a kick in the balls maybe, but if you expect to see some magical performance boost to justify the big price difference you need to look elsewhere.  Maybe one of those Fitch fuel catalysts.

Platinum does not produce a superior spark that unleashes additional power, no matter what some ad writer intimates.  What it actually does is extend the useful life of the plug because it erodes much slower than the conventional electrode material.  Less erosion means less gap growth and lower voltage requirements over time.  This is what allows auto manufacturers to specify 50,000 to 100,000 mile service intervals.  As for the split ground electrode, since the spark only jumps to the one with the lowest voltage requirement, it's not like you're getting two sparks for the price of one.  It was a bunch of marketing hype when the Split Fire folks first started selling it years ago, and adding a little platinum doesn't make it less of a hype.  If you want to "unshroud" the spark, just index the stock plugs.  Or go with the ultimate unshrouded plug, a surface gap design.

If you change plugs on a yearly basis like many of us anal idiots, you will just be throwing away a lot of extra cash with the SE plugs.  If on the other hand you routinely change your plugs only during engine overhauls, by all means go with the platinum or iridium plugs.  I personally recommend the NGK Iridium rather than the SE for those who feel the need to upgrade.

Jerry

Jerry, I beg to differ, I use the ones below and their worth every extra cent!!

But seriously I agree, what's funny is people who buy expensive plugs and run old stock cracked plug wires!

[miker]

I love AC plugs...

[Highjagger]

I do not understand everything you are writing , but I see that there are different opinions about the SE-spark plugs , they do not make wonders but their lifetime is higher , in some case the hot engine starts better ( if you have a problem with that ) .
Summasumarum :
If you have tuned your bike nearly to the optimum then you could add this special spark plugs and you get a little nearer to the perfect bike .
Is this it ?

[Talon]

Many guys change their plugs every riding season, some times maybe twice, or more. Those fancy plugs are made for long term usage. Like in my Lincoln LS, you have to take the intake manifold off to change the left side bank of plugs, so I don't change them to often, but the bike gets change once or twice a year, so those plugs aren't worth the extra money, standard plugs will do fine over this short period of time.

[sblair]

SO grc, the SE plugs ( or any other plat high end plug) is just hype??  and yet you give recommendations for a NGK plug.  Why use a NGK and not just a standard plug?  There are alot of considerations ( and preferences).  An SE triple plat plug mixed with either SE plug wires or another brand high end plug wire will give you a better spark (hotter) due to less resistance in the wire and plug.  On the dyno it has given almost 1 full HP (.82).  Is the money worth it?  Each individual must decide.  You will get the same BS when talking oil changes between dino and synthetic.  Same thing with tires.  People swear by Metzlers.  I tried them and they suck!  They are a hot dry weather tire.
  Your own personal experience will dictate what course you take.  I mean all gas is the same right?   Either way good luck on your decision.

HighJagger;  You are close.  If you are treating your motor to the best, why not plugs?  Plugs are typically rated on performance and not longivity.  There is a specific interval to change plugs no matter what the performance is.  You see some people change their plugs once or twice a year.  Is that right?  Nooooo.  You change plugs every 20k miles.  You check the plugs for wear, burn and gap at regular intervals in between.