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Re: International VS Domestic SERG. What are the diffrences?
« Reply #15 on: February 08, 2009, 04:06:06 PM »

http://www.kuryakyn.com/index.cfm/go/Home.ProductDetail/IMID/691
this will replace mine , i ordered allready .
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Re: International VS Domestic SERG. What are the diffrences?
« Reply #16 on: February 08, 2009, 04:17:40 PM »

This one ?

Ewwww... thats worse than the reflector by itself
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Re: International VS Domestic SERG. What are the diffrences?
« Reply #17 on: February 08, 2009, 04:18:35 PM »

http://www.kuryakyn.com/index.cfm/go/Home.ProductDetail/IMID/691
this will replace mine , i ordered allready .

Highjagger I went to the link you posted. Why that light. It still looks pretty big. Aren`t there any lower profile, better looking light out there.
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Re: International VS Domestic SERG. What are the diffrences?
« Reply #18 on: February 08, 2009, 04:21:36 PM »

Highjagger I went to the link you posted. Why that light. It still looks pretty big. Aren`t there any lower profile, better looking light out there.

Not much you can do with that huge hole behind the light....

The grey may blend in better against the color of the bike though.

good choice IMHO
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Re: International VS Domestic SERG. What are the diffrences?
« Reply #19 on: February 08, 2009, 04:39:19 PM »

Not much you can do with that huge hole behind the light....

The grey may blend in better against the color of the bike though.

good choice IMHO

i agree tis best solution and quick to reinstall the original for periodic compulsory testing
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Re: International VS Domestic SERG. What are the diffrences?
« Reply #20 on: February 08, 2009, 05:17:20 PM »

Not the best , but i can life with it for the beginning  ::) ::) ::)
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Re: International VS Domestic SERG. What are the diffrences?
« Reply #21 on: September 26, 2009, 12:38:01 AM »

Has anyone purchased a module to allow tail light to work with turn signals on 09 cvo, Harley sells a plug in module to replace tail light wiring but the plugs are different on international bike. Dont mind tail light , would prefer to have all rear lights to work together like US bike.
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Re: International VS Domestic SERG. What are the diffrences?
« Reply #22 on: September 26, 2009, 02:37:36 AM »

Which plug in module from HD do you mean ?
The black turn signal covers are not allowed in the EU i guess because the turn signals have to be yellow ( and mustn`t be red ) .
I found a small chrome LED rear-brake light that replaced my taillight and i am working on a cover for the fender hole , hope to get it back next week and then i will post pics , Yeah .
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Re: International VS Domestic SERG. What are the diffrences?
« Reply #23 on: September 26, 2009, 11:47:58 AM »

When my 09 SERG arrived I was surprised to see the huge brake light. I didn't know there were two versions of the bike. That got me wondering what other differences there are that I don't know?

Looking at the Parts Catalog, there appears to multiple versions of the beast (2009 CVO™ Road Glide®)

First division is market produced for; First position in the VIN, VIN Code “1” is sale within the US, VIN code “5” is sale outside the US.

Then “Model” or the fourth position in the VIN.  While they’re all “PV” models, there is a major difference between Japan and all others; The FLTRSE3 model is a 110 cubic inch, and FLTR3-CVO model is the Japan version (see next reference 96 cu in (or Japan)).

The fifth position in the VIN then identifies the Engine.  An “8” is the 110 cu.in. (1800 cc), and a “4” is the Twin CAM 96™, or 1584 cc.

The sixth position of the VIN identifies “Introduction Date” (Regular, Mid-Year, or Cosemetic changes and/or Special Introductory Date)) and also further breaks down California (Cali) or non-Cali versions.  Please note, I see nothing in the parts catalog that refers to any parts change based on production date, so I suspect a 1 or a 3 is all that's really out there.

1=Regular, 2=Mid-Year, 3=Cali, 4=Cosmetic changes and/or special introductory date, 5=Cali cosmetic changes and/or special introductory date, and 6=Cali mid-year.

I’ve personally lost count on how many versions that makes.  However, HD's not done!

As you get into the actual parts there is further delineation based on “HDI” (Harley-Davidson International) country of sale.  As Identified in the VIN Japan has a significant difference in many engine parts.  In addition to Japan, there are further HDI differences occurring with others, and parts are commonly identified with Domestic, Australia, Canada, England, HDI, and Japan.  Many are simple differences such as the speedometer presentation (MPH, KPH, MPH/KPH).  In most case, it appears, lighting, mirrors, and exhaust/emissions are the major difference in all but Japan versions.

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Re: International VS Domestic SERG. What are the diffrences?
« Reply #24 on: September 26, 2009, 05:51:33 PM »

e]                          module# 69461-06A    turn signal module     book 2010 harley Davidson motor accessories.



                I have a canadian version, but I now live in California, so I could change turn signal lenses to red , and light all 3. If I find the correct module. does anyone know of such module for 2009 SERG ?
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Re: International VS Domestic SERG. What are the diffrences?
« Reply #25 on: September 28, 2009, 12:18:26 AM »

e]                          module# 69461-06A    turn signal module     book 2010 harley Davidson motor accessories.



                I have a canadian version, but I now live in California, so I could change turn signal lenses to red , and light all 3. If I find the correct module. does anyone know of such module for 2009 SERG ?

portugee, parts book is really confusing on this.  It's showing amber for HDI, England, Japan and the smoked red for Domestic and Canada.  So, you have amber turn signals with the big brake light?  And it's Canadian? 

I'd speculate that it is the light side and not the harnass side that has the missing connector pin.  You might try and find a red light and take off your amber light and compare the light side plug to see if the brake light connection is missing.  Red one may just plug in and work. 
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Re: International VS Domestic SERG. What are the diffrences?
« Reply #26 on: September 29, 2009, 12:11:03 AM »

B4 someone nails the thread with the worthless without a picture signs.  It might just be easier to review your amber harness with a picture of the red harness.  Four wires into the connector and there is four plugs inside the light side receptacle.

WOW!, Look at that SILVER, it glows, it sparkles, it's like being at the Carson City Mint in the Silver State's Capital. 

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Re: International VS Domestic SERG. What are the diffrences?
« Reply #27 on: September 29, 2009, 12:39:00 AM »

Thsi seems to be the wiring for a rear-brake-turn-module . Is that right ?
Black = ground
Brown = turn right
Blue = rear light
Yellow-Red = Brake light
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Re: International VS Domestic SERG. What are the diffrences?
« Reply #28 on: September 29, 2009, 01:09:35 AM »

Klaus,  The wiring diagram shows six (6) wires going to the rear lighting.

I didn't trace them all, but;

Black appears to be ground.

Blue appears to be running light.

Red/Yellow appears to be brake light.

Brown appears to be right turn lead.

Violet appears to be left turn lead.

There is also an Orange and White that I suspect is the security alert light lead, but I didn't chase it down.
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Re: International VS Domestic SERG. What are the diffrences?
« Reply #29 on: September 29, 2009, 01:29:25 AM »

Klaus,  The wiring diagram shows six (6) wires going to the rear lighting.

I didn't trace them all, but;

Black appears to be ground.

Blue appears to be running light.

Red/Yellow appears to be brake light.

Brown appears to be right turn lead.

Violet appears to be left turn lead.

There is also an Orange and White that I suspect is the security alert light lead, but I didn't chase it down.
six are going to the taillight because the bulb-turn signals are connected from there , but the SERG LED turn signals are directly wired to elsewehere , the cables therefor leading to the front of the bike seperately on each side of the bike , i guess because of (and to) the LED-control-unit .
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