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Chrome Cover for Oil lines
« on: May 27, 2009, 07:52:25 PM »

Hello I have a 2006 CVO Ultra Glide. Has someone experienced changing out there air temp gauge to a oil gauge in the faring and not been able to use the chrome cover that covers the hoses. When I looked up the part on HD.com it says it wont fit if oil gauge is installed. My buddy has sent me a picture of his without the oil gauge change out and it seems that it will fit. When the gauge was installed by another owner the cover was left off. I would like to purchase the new cover and install it if it would fit. Can anyone help me? I attached a picture so you can see what I am talking about. Thanks for looking!

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Re: Chrome Cover for Oil lines
« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2009, 09:54:19 PM »

You ran in to one of the several hassles with installing the sending unit there.  Once there you have some options. 

There is a larger cover that covers a larger area.  It won't fit right with the hydraulic clutch.  But if you're willing to to the expensive new chrome part to a bench grinder and contour (i.e., grind away on the damn thing) you can make it work.

Live with it.

Or...

Replace the line back to an original.  Use the original cover.  And install the sending unit in the spare hole in the oil pan next to the oil drain.  That's the route many many here have taken.  It's a much easier install.
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Re: Chrome Cover for Oil lines
« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2009, 09:56:25 PM »

Robert, I believe the reason the cover won't fit is due to the brass fitting that gets spliced into the oil line.  There is another way to do what you want without having to butcher a cover to fit over that fitting and sending unit.  Move the sending unit to the oil pan, where most folks have been installing them, and then replace the cut oil hose with a new stock hose.  Then the cover will fit, and your gauge will still work, and everything will be lovely.

There are several threads on the site concerning how to install the sending unit in the oil pan.  Basically you need a reducer to fit a machining plug hole in the pan next to the oil drain plug, and then you need to run the sender wires over to the frame and then up to the gauge.

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Re: Chrome Cover for Oil lines
« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2009, 12:30:23 AM »

There is a larger cover that covers a larger area.  It won't fit right with the hydraulic clutch.  But if you're willing to to the expensive new chrome part to a bench grinder and contour (i.e., grind away on the damn thing) you can make it work.


What did you grind? Mine fit without grinding anything. Although after the screw boss broke on the top I used a grinder to remove both of them completely. Makes it easier to take off when checking the trans fluid.

Check this thread

http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=18535.0
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Re: Chrome Cover for Oil lines
« Reply #4 on: May 28, 2009, 12:31:57 AM »

Is this the proper place if installing in the lines





If so that is the feed so it sill isn't reading the hottest oil  :nixweiss:
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Re: Chrome Cover for Oil lines
« Reply #5 on: May 28, 2009, 08:43:46 AM »

Is this the proper place if installing in the lines





If so that is the feed so it sill isn't reading the hottest oil  :nixweiss:

[i]First of all, Thank You to everyone that has posted there experience and thoughts. I have went back to old postings about this topic and it looks like moving the tee and sending unit to the oil pan cooler is the remedy! This work was done by the HD Dealership in Salt Lake City, Utah where I purchased the bike from a private party. From Duane's question, is the sending unit even installed on the right line, bothers me. Does any one have anymore information of exactly where and what line you pick @ the oil pan. Thanks Again for all the Help!

Robert
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Re: Chrome Cover for Oil lines
« Reply #6 on: May 28, 2009, 08:58:00 AM »

Robert, the point in the oil pan where you install the sending unit is where the oil is picked up and sent to the oil pump.  So for anyone wanting to know the absolute peak temperature the oil reached, this won't tell them.  Of course, unless you measure it directly at the hottest point in the engine (underside of the pistons where the oil is sprayed to cool them), there is no one perfect place to measure the temp.  This location in the pan is what we call "close enough for government work" and will tell you what you need to know.  It is also going to give you basically the same reading as what you are getting now with the sending unit in the feed line.  I can't remember back that far, but I remember seeing the original instructions for that installation and what you have is what I remember seeing.

btw, there is a 90° bend in the passage in the oil pan, and that's why there is a hole and a plug (can't drill a 90° turn in the middle of a passage).  

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In the attachment, the plug labeled in white is the one you use to mount the sending unit.
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Re: Chrome Cover for Oil lines
« Reply #7 on: May 28, 2009, 09:23:25 AM »

Some shoddy work there. I have to agree, every time I have replaced the temp. gauge I always went under to the pan.
Nice and clean, I would spend the extra time and re route. Right now looks like you have several connections that could and most likely will leak.

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Re: Chrome Cover for Oil lines
« Reply #8 on: May 28, 2009, 10:08:39 AM »

Robert, the point in the oil pan where you install the sending unit is where the oil is picked up and sent to the oil pump.  So for anyone wanting to know the absolute peak temperature the oil reached, this won't tell them.  Of course, unless you measure it directly at the hottest point in the engine (underside of the pistons where the oil is sprayed to cool them), there is no one perfect place to measure the temp.  This location in the pan is what we call "close enough for government work" and will tell you what you need to know.  It is also going to give you basically the same reading as what you are getting now with the sending unit in the feed line.  I can't remember back that far, but I remember seeing the original instructions for that installation and what you have is what I remember seeing.

btw, there is a 90° bend in the passage in the oil pan, and that's why there is a hole and a plug (can't drill a 90° turn in the middle of a passage).  

Jerry

In the attachment, the plug labeled in white is the one you use to mount the sending unit.

Thank You Very Much Jerry! Great Detailed Answer to my Question.
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