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Super Tuner, Dyno tuned, & ACR's
« on: September 07, 2009, 07:10:30 PM »

I'm pretty sure that what I'm thinking that I'm thinking is correct,  I think.   But wanted to ask to make sure.

  I'm unsure my ACR's are enabled after having the bike dyno tuned.   However,  I cant "upload" the tune from the ECM to check.  I do not have the file from the tuner so I'm thinking that in order to enable to ACR's and reflash then I would need the original file,  correct?   
No way to enable ACR without reflashing????
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Re: Super Tuner, Dyno tuned, & ACR's
« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2009, 07:39:33 PM »

I'm pretty sure that what I'm thinking that I'm thinking is correct,  I think.   But wanted to ask to make sure.

  I'm unsure my ACR's are enabled after having the bike dyno tuned.   However,  I cant "upload" the tune from the ECM to check.  I do not have the file from the tuner so I'm thinking that in order to enable to ACR's and reflash then I would need the original file,  correct?   
No way to enable ACR without reflashing????

Not sure what you're talking about here. It sounds like you have a SERT.I think you need to get a better handle on how the SERT works. There are no "flashes" for these bikes. You can load a HD map in or have it dyno tuned. The SERT software also allows you to go into a setting to enable or disable the ACR's, amungst other things besides tuning. You need to hook up to a PC with SERT software to enable the ACR's. ;)

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Re: Super Tuner, Dyno tuned, & ACR's
« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2009, 07:45:28 PM »

Not sure what you're talking about here. It sounds like you have a SERT.I think you need to get a better handle on how the SERT works. There are no "flashes" for these bikes. You can load a HD map in or have it dyno tuned. The SERT software also allows you to go into a setting to enable or disable the ACR's, amungst other things besides tuning. You need to hook up to a PC with SERT software to enable the ACR's. ;)

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Thanks for the reply Hoist,   but I do have a super tuner.    The default for the ACR setting is "disabled" with the new tuner and there is no way that you can modify a setting unless you first "load a tune".   Unfortunately for me,  I dont have the dyno tune map to load in order to modify the ACR setting.
At least this is how I see it.
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Re: Super Tuner, Dyno tuned, & ACR's
« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2009, 07:50:20 PM »

Thanks for the reply Hoist,   but I do have a super tuner.    The default for the ACR setting is "disabled" with the new tuner and there is no way that you can modify a setting unless you first "load a tune".   Unfortunately for me,  I dont have the dyno tune map to load in order to modify the ACR setting.
At least this is how I see it.

You can connect the software thru the dongle just like the old SERT, and access the ACR settings without installing a map as far as I know. Don't see why you can't access the program just because you're not installing a map. ???

The map is "created" on a dyno for a custom tune, or you can download a canned map from the SERT software as a starting point. You don't install a dyno tune map. You create it as you're tuning on the dyno. ;)
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Re: Super Tuner, Dyno tuned, & ACR's
« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2009, 08:28:24 PM »

You can connect the software thru the dongle just like the old SERT, and access the ACR settings without installing a map as far as I know. Don't see why you can't access the program just because you're not installing a map. ???

The map is "created" on a dyno for a custom tune, or you can download a canned map from the SERT software as a starting point. You don't install a dyno tune map. You create it as you're tuning on the dyno. ;)

Dont get me wrong Hoist,  but judging from your reply I'm not sure you're familiar with the SESPT,  When you connect to your ECM using the software then that is just what you've done,  There is no uploading your ECM to your laptop in order to configure it.  Therefore,  you're required to load a tune from the software,  then modify your desired settings, then download or reflash the ECM.
Then again,  If I'm wrong and you know precisely the steps to take,  then I'm listening.
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Re: Super Tuner, Dyno tuned, & ACR's
« Reply #5 on: September 07, 2009, 10:41:24 PM »

I'm pretty sure that what I'm thinking that I'm thinking is correct,  I think.   But wanted to ask to make sure.

  I'm unsure my ACR's are enabled after having the bike dyno tuned.   However,  I cant "upload" the tune from the ECM to check.  I do not have the file from the tuner so I'm thinking that in order to enable to ACR's and reflash then I would need the original file,  correct?   
No way to enable ACR without reflashing????

If the vehicle is equipped with ACRs and they are not enabled, they are now toast because of the way the circuit works.  Just an FYI.
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Re: Super Tuner, Dyno tuned, & ACR's
« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2009, 11:41:59 PM »

Just take it to any dealer and tell them you had it dyno tuned and now the ACR's are off.  They can plug in, or you can, to turn the ACR's back on.
I can't tell you the exact steps but I can tell you if they made any changes and did not enable the ACR's after any adjustment by the SSERT you are most likely correct in suspecting the ACR's are OFF.
The last step before unplugging a race tuner should be "MAKE SURE ACR'S ARE ON ,THEN SELECT EXIT, THEN UNPLUG".
Mine did the same thing.
You do not need the tuned map as that is already saved and will not change by turning the ACR's on/off.  The ACR's section does not have anything to do with your tune/existing map which would be saved.  Hoist is right you can access ACR's without changing the map.
If the vehicle is equipped with ACRs and they are not enabled, they are now toast because of the way the circuit works.  Just an FYI.
NO NO NO They are not toast.  I went through the same thing after mine was dyno tuned and once the ACR's were enabled with the SSERT the ACR's have worked fine.  I went on a 800mile trip not knowing my ACR's were not enabled thought one of my ACR's had failed (because of the hard starting) and when I got back home took it to the dealer to find the ACR's not enabled.  I have about 6000 additional miles since that happened with no problems.
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Re: Super Tuner, Dyno tuned, & ACR's
« Reply #7 on: September 08, 2009, 12:02:24 AM »

Just take it to any dealer and tell them you had it dyno tuned and now the ACR's are off.  They can plug in, or you can, to turn the ACR's back on.
I can't tell you the exact steps but I can tell you if they made any changes and did not enable the ACR's after any adjustment by the SSERT you are most likely correct in suspecting the ACR's are OFF.
The last step before unplugging a race tuner should be "MAKE SURE ACR'S ARE ON ,THEN SELECT EXIT, THEN UNPLUG".
Mine did the same thing.
You do not need the tuned map as that is already saved and will not change by turning the ACR's on/off.  The ACR's section does not have anything to do with your tune/existing map which would be saved.  Hoist is right you can access ACR's without changing the map.NO NO NO They are not toast.  I went through the same thing after mine was dyno tuned and once the ACR's were enabled with the SSERT the ACR's have worked fine.  I went on a 800mile trip not knowing my ACR's were not enabled thought one of my ACR's had failed (because of the hard starting) and when I got back home took it to the dealer to find the ACR's not enabled.  I have about 6000 additional miles since that happened with no problems.


If the ACRs are installed and turned off, they receive constant voltage and melt.  Don't believe it, have your dealer call the tech line..
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Re: Super Tuner, Dyno tuned, & ACR's
« Reply #8 on: September 08, 2009, 01:11:07 AM »

If the ACRs are installed and turned off, they receive constant voltage and melt.  Don't believe it, have your dealer call the tech line..

Mine were turned off, I rode around 800 miles.....they didn't melt.  Enabled now for about 6000 miles with no problems and good starts.
No I dont believe it, however I will probably not bother calling anyone to see why my ACR's are not melted and still work. Seems like a silly question to ask.   
I think you may have been given some bad info.

Most important, I didnt want "aclass" to think he now has melted ACR's because they were not enabled.



   

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Re: Super Tuner, Dyno tuned, & ACR's
« Reply #9 on: September 08, 2009, 07:45:44 AM »

Well,    what you guys are saying is a bit encouraging but at this point it's gonna take someone telling me how to change it.  I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed but I get along okay with computers/software.

I can get to the ACR option in the software,   but ONLY after selecting a tune from the software, not my custom dyno tuned map that lives in the ECM.  So,  if I change the ACR option to enabled and then download to my ECM I have essentially wiped out my custom dyno tune....???

I've sent a note to the tuner this morning to see if he can tell me they're enabled or not.
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Re: Super Tuner, Dyno tuned, & ACR's
« Reply #10 on: September 08, 2009, 08:56:35 AM »

If the ACRs are installed and turned off, they receive constant voltage and melt.  Don't believe it, have your dealer call the tech line..

Voltage is just potential, not current flow, and doesn't melt or toast anything.  Same principle as other devices on the bikes that are switched on and off through the ground side, like your idiot lights.

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Re: Super Tuner, Dyno tuned, & ACR's
« Reply #11 on: September 08, 2009, 08:58:39 AM »

Well,    what you guys are saying is a bit encouraging but at this point it's gonna take someone telling me how to change it.  I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed but I get along okay with computers/software.

I can get to the ACR option in the software,   but ONLY after selecting a tune from the software, not my custom dyno tuned map that lives in the ECM.  So,  if I change the ACR option to enabled and then download to my ECM I have essentially wiped out my custom dyno tune....???

I've sent a note to the tuner this morning to see if he can tell me they're enabled or not.

Shouldn't need it, but this begs the question, why didn't your tuner give you a copy of the map on disk?  I would insist on having that, and also would insist that if he didn't enable the ACR's that he do so now, free of charge.

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Re: Super Tuner, Dyno tuned, & ACR's
« Reply #12 on: September 08, 2009, 09:11:18 AM »

Shouldn't need it, but this begs the question, why didn't your tuner give you a copy of the map on disk?  I would insist on having that, and also would insist that if he didn't enable the ACR's that he do so now, free of charge.

Jerry

I agree with this statement.

I got a copy of mine, as it should be. You did pay for the tune correct???
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Re: Super Tuner, Dyno tuned, & ACR's
« Reply #13 on: September 08, 2009, 09:30:53 AM »

Well,    you're right guys,   I should have received a copy but this particular tuner doesnt operate that way for some reason.  And I knew this up front.  He does a good job and he doesnt charge as much as most,  but he doesnt share much.
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« Reply #14 on: September 08, 2009, 09:35:04 AM »

Well,    you're right guys,   I should have received a copy but this particular tuner doesnt operate that way for some reason.  And I knew this up front.  He does a good job and he doesnt charge as much as most,  but he doesnt share much.

If your scoot (ECM) ever takes a dump and you don't have the tune your screwed.............. that's about all I can say about that.
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