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[Jerry/MD]

Hey jesse, how about heat reduction? That's my MAIN goal with any mod right now.

[jesse111]

You will have to re-tune with whatever pipes you decide on right?

Mufflers are not as critical as the intake and certainly not as critical as removing the cat with a new head pipe like the X-pipe. As long as no issues arise, I personally will not worry about a re-tune from changing mufflers. Especially since they are a high flow design like the Fullsac baffles. Fullsac tunes should work just fine with any high flow muffler.

But if you wanted to cross every T and dot every I, a dyno is the way to go.

[jesse111]

Hey jesse, how about heat reduction? That's my MAIN goal with any mod right now.

I've been watching the heat issue very closely. I don't have any way to measure degrees but what I am doing is comparing how often the over heat protection cycle kicks in now vs. before the install. So far it has not kicked in even once. But more time is required. It's getting warmer out and I'll be doing some city driving soon and see how she does at street lights and such.

But as for now, it does in fact appear that temps have decreased.

[Jerry/MD]

I've been watching the heat issue very closely. I don't have any way to measure degrees but what I am doing is comparing how often the over heat protection cycle kicks in now vs. before the install. So far it has not kicked in even once. But more time is required. It's getting warmer out and I'll be doing some city driving soon and see how she does at street lights and such.

But as for now, it does in fact appear that temps have decreased.

Thanks. I bought this bike in December and finally got to experience the wonderful 110 heat on my right calf this week. Truly amazing! Now I understand why so many CVO owners change the exhaust.

I'm gonna call Steve tomorrow. Like you, I don't want something too loud. My passenger...who I've been married to for 28 years would let me know...

[jarica]

I just finished the Fullsac installation (2" baffles, x-pipe (b) and Steve's fuel map for the 2010 CVO).  This is a different bike!  Much better response.  I can feel the torque, and the throttle response has really improved.   The sound of the 2" baffles is perfect for me - not too loud, but still has that Harley rumble.  I didn't use the stock packing and screen.  The tech at the HD dealer had a big smile on his face after he test rode it.  THANK YOU, STEVE!! - AND THE MEMBERS OF THIS FORUM. 

Rick
Dallas, Texas

[Mr. Wizard]

Hey Rick...  congrats!!

Now get your VE tables synchronized and wake it up even more!   

[FUNGOUL]

2010 SESG stock dyno

will be installing "B" X-Pipe TTS,(with Steve's tune) SE Heavy Breather A/C Black (just looks cool to me) and my Reinhardt's from my SERK
then I'll Dyno again April 17th. I have 2" baffles from Steve also but i like it loud!

Dyno today couldn't wait till next sat.

[catahoula58]

I just finished the Fullsac installation (2" baffles, x-pipe (b) and Steve's fuel map for the 2010 CVO).  This is a different bike!  Much better response.  I can feel the torque, and the throttle response has really improved.   The sound of the 2" baffles is perfect for me - not too loud, but still has that Harley rumble.  I didn't use the stock packing and screen.  The tech at the HD dealer had a big smile on his face after he test rode it.  THANK YOU, STEVE!! - AND THE MEMBERS OF THIS FORUM. 

Rick
Dallas, Texas

Hey Rick Did you have the dealer install your baffles andx the new head pipes?   Which dealer in Dallas did you go to? And did he do the TTS master tune also?   Thx in advance!

[Fullsac Performance]

I just finished the Fullsac installation (2" baffles, x-pipe (b) and Steve's fuel map for the 2010 CVO).  This is a different bike!  Much better response.  I can feel the torque, and the throttle response has really improved.   The sound of the 2" baffles is perfect for me - not too loud, but still has that Harley rumble.  I didn't use the stock packing and screen.  The tech at the HD dealer had a big smile on his face after he test rode it.  THANK YOU, STEVE!! - AND THE MEMBERS OF THIS FORUM. 

Rick
Dallas, Texas

Thanks Rick!
Glad your happy. Its always a good sign when the HD tech has a smile on his face.

Steve George

[jarica]

Hey Rick Did you have the dealer install your baffles andx the new head pipes?   Which dealer in Dallas did you go to? And did he do the TTS master tune also?   Thx in advance!

My HD dealer installed Fullsac's 2" core baffles and the X-pipe (B) for my 2010 CVO Street Glide.
I brought my computer with the TTS Mastertune software loaded, updated and the USB drivers installed.
After the baffles and header x-pipe were installed, I saved the factory configuration and uploaded Steve's TTS fuel map - with the HD tech supervising the original factory config save and the fuel map upload. I wanted the tech involved because Fullsac has an outstanding performance exhaust system that could benefit other customers.

The HD dealer that I use is Harley-Davidson of North Texas in Carrollton.  The tech's name is Tom.  Tom is very careful and does excellent work. Everything fits perfectly.  So far. I've had no EITMS rear cylinder issues today in traffic (a big change on heat equation) and the torque on this machine is awesome.  I can't believe how the bike performs now.  Also, I'm glad that I got the 2" baffles.  My riding group buddies like the sound of the pipes; plus, there is a torque benefit. 

Steve has cranked out a very nice setup.

Rick

Rick 

Rick 

[jarica]

Hey Rick...  congrats!!

Now get your VE tables synchronized and wake it up even more!   

A dyno is my next step.

Rick

[jesse111]

Hey Rick...  congrats!!

Now get your VE tables synchronized and wake it up even more!  

Curious, how is it that you sync the VE tables?

[jarica]

Curious, how is it that you sync the VE tables?

I prefer the term 'optimization'.  In my opinion, the best way to optimize the VE tables and AFR is with a dyno tune. You can ride around and record data with V-Tune or Smart Tune and tweak the tables, but I don't see how you would ever reach the level of optimization that is possible with a dyno tune. Even Steve's fuel maps are based on a dyno optimization. A good canned map, based on dyno runs on another bike, may be good enough - especially if it's difficult to find a good dyno operator. 

Rick

Rick 

[Opossum]

Put the X pipe, 1.75's and SEAC on,  just got back from The Dyno Differance here in Dallas (Ed, you're the MAN) She now clocks 93 hp @5036 rpm's & 117 ft lbs @2748 rpm's, seems like my new scooter just got newer!  Steve, you're stuff is the real deal.  Thanks!

[FL54]

If you feel that you can't get good results from the V tune, why would you buy the TTS software in the first place?  Why wouldn't you just upload Steve's map and have it dyno'd.  Be curious to hear other opinions.