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Re: Need Help with Air Cleaner (2010 SECU)
« Reply #15 on: March 28, 2010, 05:25:26 PM »


CAHDBIKER, I started a thread several years back called "Roll Your Own SE Air Cleaner" that listed all the parts necessary to create your own air cleaner without having to pay for the POS filter H-D supplies instead of the K&N.  The numbers I listed were good for the older models up through '07, you might want to update that thread or start another for the '08 and later folks if you have all the part numbers available.  It became a very popular idea, and many dealers started doing it that way rather than deal with the problems created by the cheap filter element from H-D.

http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=5725.0


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Re: Need Help with Air Cleaner (2010 SECU)
« Reply #16 on: March 28, 2010, 06:28:23 PM »

Has anyone had the stock CVO cover pop the center out of a new K&N filter?  I swapped the paper filter out for one and after a week it fell off next to my leg on the interstate.  I called K&N and verified I had the correct Part # for 08-later touring.  They want me to send it back with a new one on the way and do a little testing for them with a grease pen and my cover.  No charge to me and I’m glad I didn’t drop the cover.
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Re: Need Help with Air Cleaner (2010 SECU)
« Reply #17 on: March 29, 2010, 08:47:55 AM »


Click on the attached pdf file for the instructions and part listing for the SE air cleaner kit for the '08 and up Touring models.  The part number for the chrome backplate, if you prefer that over the standard aluminum, is 29624-08, $49.95 MSRP.  The K&N filter part number for this application is HD-0818.


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Re: Need Help with Air Cleaner (2010 SECU)
« Reply #18 on: March 29, 2010, 10:03:42 AM »

So, this looks like a great option.

Pro - Removes the support bracket. This has to stay if you install the Big Sucker.
Cons -

Does anyone know the cost if you get the parts this way?

Questions - The directions indicate you have to remove the fuel tank. I assume this is to reach the mounting screws on the support bracket.


Is this list correct?

1 O-ring, #2-113 (4) 11292
2 Backplate 29239-08
3 Gasket, throttle body 29241-08
4 Stud, mounting (3) 29447-99A
5 Bolt, breather, (2) 29267-08
6 Screw, hex socket buttonhead (3) 3938
7 K&N filter HD-0818
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Re: Need Help with Air Cleaner (2010 SECU)
« Reply #19 on: March 29, 2010, 11:19:53 AM »



Questions - The directions indicate you have to remove the fuel tank. I assume this is to reach the mounting screws on the support bracket.




The only question I can answer is this one.  No, you don't have to remove the gas tank to remove the support bracket.  (I have done 2 bikes with the Fuelmoto).   I believe it takes a 1/8" L shaped allen wrench.  it is not easy as the screws come out hard all the way 1/4 turn at a time.   With the Fuelmoto instructions, they say to remove the bracket with an allen wrench.  Hope this helps.
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Re: Need Help with Air Cleaner (2010 SECU)
« Reply #20 on: March 29, 2010, 01:16:58 PM »

So maybe I missed something. Is there a K&N air filter that will fit the stock air cleaner housing for my two bikes: 2010 SE Streetglide, 2009 SE Ultra?
Thanks mucho.
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Re: Need Help with Air Cleaner (2010 SECU)
« Reply #21 on: March 29, 2010, 01:52:04 PM »

I dont know if the K&N Filter will work with the stock setup, but CAHDBIKER posted a parts list to build your own.

http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=47711.0


HD chrome backplate kit: 29624-08                                                        $49.95
HD HDP O-Ring 11292 (needed 4 at $1.07 each )                                      $4.28
HD HDM Gasket 29241-08                                                                     $8.95
HD HDP A/C Mounting Stud 29447-99A (needed 3 at $12.95 each)              $38.85
HD HDM Torx, SBH Screw 3938 (needed 3 at $1.50 each)                          $4.50
K & N Air Filter (I don't think this is a Harley Part no. 1011-1410)                 $69.95
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Re: Need Help with Air Cleaner (2010 SECU)
« Reply #22 on: March 29, 2010, 02:12:25 PM »

So maybe I missed something. Is there a K&N air filter that will fit the stock air cleaner housing for my two bikes: 2010 SE Streetglide, 2009 SE Ultra?
Thanks mucho.

The K&N HD-1508 will fit the Ultra plastic airbox if that is what you are asking.  There is no K&N replacement for the filter on the SESG yet. 

http://www.knfilters.com/search/product.aspx?Prod=HD-1508


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Re: Need Help with Air Cleaner (2010 SECU)
« Reply #23 on: March 29, 2010, 02:14:45 PM »


Exploded view and parts list attached:


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Re: Need Help with Air Cleaner (2010 SECU)
« Reply #25 on: March 29, 2010, 04:40:49 PM »

Has anyone had the stock CVO cover pop the center out of a new K&N filter?  I swapped the paper filter out for one and after a week it fell off next to my leg on the interstate.  I called K&N and verified I had the correct Part # for 08-later touring.  They want me to send it back with a new one on the way and do a little testing for them with a grease pen and my cover.  No charge to me and I’m glad I didn’t drop the cover.

I haven't had that experience personally, but several folks on this site posted about the same thing shortly after H-D changed the CVO covers from the old round center section to the new rectangular center section.  I hadn't seen any postings about that for quite awhile, until this one of yours.

Did the weld on the nut fail, or did the metal end plate break near the nut?  If the end plate broke out, that is usually caused by excessive movement and vibration.  The use of the current version CVO cover can cause that, and in fact H-D warns about that possibility in the verbage with the SE air cleaner kits they sell.  They recommend replacing the CVO cover with one from a standard model with the round center section.  I know there are quite a few on this site still running the CVO cover without a problem, but if it were me I would take steps to make sure that cover to filter fit was improved to prevent what happened to you.  Having the A/C cover fall off while riding is not only expensive, it can be rather dangerous for not only the rider but for anyone following.  If you use the site search and type in "center nut", you will see a listing of some of the previous posts concerning this same problem.

When you get the new filter, place it into the cover (off the bike) and line it up with the center hole.  Make note of how the end of the filter does not touch the cover all the way around like it does on the old style covers.  If you want to make sure you don't have a repeat problem, you need to provide additional support between the cover and the end of the filter to eliminate any rocking or movement. 


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Re: Need Help with Air Cleaner (2010 SECU)
« Reply #26 on: March 29, 2010, 05:22:34 PM »

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When you get the new filter, place it into the cover (off the bike) and line it up with the center hole.  Make note of how the end of the filter does not touch the cover all the way around like it does on the old style covers.  If you want to make sure you don't have a repeat problem, you need to provide additional support between the cover and the end of the filter to eliminate any rocking or movement. 


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Thanks Jerry.  Great tip.  Was getting ready to put on the K&N-0818 in place of the paper Harley filter.
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Re: Need Help with Air Cleaner (2010 SECU)
« Reply #27 on: March 29, 2010, 10:28:31 PM »

I got the TTS and baffles from Fullsac but did not get the Arlen Ness from Steve for two reasons:

1)  the chrome back plate was made in China

2)  You leave the black TBI support plate on with this air cleaner per instructions from Arlen Ness website.

I did not get the Harley Screamin Eagle air cleaner because the element is not a K&N as GRC stated.

I ordered my air cleaner assy from Fuelmoto.  I bought theirs because:

1) They use Harley's Screamin Eagle backplate (and I painted it Granite to match the VTwin).

2) They use the K&N air filter element.

3) You remove the TBI black support brace with this setup.

I also retained the stock air cleaner cover.

I do not know what the Throttle Body size but GRC's word is gospel.
 

now THAT deserves a pic!
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Re: Need Help with Air Cleaner (2010 SECU)
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Re: Need Help with Air Cleaner (2010 SECU)
« Reply #29 on: April 05, 2010, 10:44:39 AM »

I also have a question.  If I just change out the stock AC, with a Big Sucker, on my 010 CVO Ultra do I have to  remap the engine or add a turner to keep it from damaging the engine or running to lean?
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