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why different oils in each opening?
« on: September 20, 2010, 06:16:49 PM »

   I see some people like to run various oil weights in each opening. If a thicker weight is better in the primary and tranny, then why would harley just do the 20-50 in all three? I was thinking of using either mobil 1 or lucas 20-50 in all three openings, is there a problem with that or is it just your personal feeling. I do have an oil cooler FWIW.  Thanks,
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Re: why different oils in each opening?
« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2010, 06:50:25 PM »



Cause all three holes are different?

LOL


I think Harley Does it so techs can remember which hole gets what.


I use to give all three holes the same thing, but have learned the error of my ways.

each hole wants a little something different
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Re: why different oils in each opening?
« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2010, 09:21:52 PM »

   I see some people like to run various oil weights in each opening. If a thicker weight is better in the primary and tranny, then why would harley just do the 20-50 in all three? I was thinking of using either mobil 1 or lucas 20-50 in all three openings, is there a problem with that or is it just your personal feeling. I do have an oil cooler FWIW.  Thanks,

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Re: why different oils in each opening?
« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2010, 10:09:18 PM »

Whatever you choose be sure it is motorcycle rated lubricant not automotive!


What does that matter except for marketing.............

the API engineering ratings is all that matters
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Re: why different oils in each opening?
« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2010, 11:08:33 PM »



What does that matter except for marketing.............

the API engineering ratings is all that matters

The oils are the same but there are different additive packages for the air cooled motorcyle engines...

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Re: why different oils in each opening?
« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2010, 07:26:27 AM »

Oh no, here we go again...  :'(
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Re: why different oils in each opening?
« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2010, 08:05:27 AM »

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Re: why different oils in each opening?
« Reply #8 on: September 21, 2010, 08:44:55 AM »

   I see some people like to run various oil weights in each opening. If a thicker weight is better in the primary and tranny, then why would harley just do the 20-50 in all three? I was thinking of using either mobil 1 or lucas 20-50 in all three openings, is there a problem with that or is it just your personal feeling. I do have an oil cooler FWIW.  Thanks,

First, you need to understand the different rating systems.  Motor oil is rated on a different scale than gear oil, so the "weight" numbers you refer to are not interchangeable.  A 50 "weight" motor oil is about the same actual viscosity as a 90 "weight" gear oil, for instance.  The correct rating for your Harley is a 20w50 motor oil, and a 75w90 gear oil. 

The difference is basically in the additive packages.  Motor oils cannot use some of the best anti-wear additives available in true gear oils due to potential damage to catalytic converters and formation of acids due to moisture from combustion entering the crankcase, among other reasons. 

However, if you want to use one product in all three holes, I wouldn't stay awake at night worrying about it.  Just make sure you use a product that is formulated for all three holes, which means it does have some additional additives for gears.  SYN3, Amsoil, and Mobil 1 all claim to meet the minimum requirements for gearboxes.  You'd have to ask the manufacturer about any other brands you might be considering.


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And btw, yes, this subject has been beaten to death.  Try a search on the site, you should get enough hits to keep you busy for a day or two at least.  Lubrication is one of those topics that attracts more hype and BS than just about any other topic I can think of, both from those who sell the products as well as those who use them.  Don't believe everything you hear or read.
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Re: why different oils in each opening?
« Reply #9 on: September 21, 2010, 09:19:40 AM »

Just as a side note.  If you using something different in each hole, its easier to tell where the leak is coming from.   :D
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Re: why different oils in each opening?
« Reply #10 on: September 21, 2010, 12:30:00 PM »

Just as a side note.  If you using something different in each hole, its easier to tell where the leak is coming from.   :D
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Re: why different oils in each opening?
« Reply #11 on: September 21, 2010, 02:59:27 PM »

thanks all. I appreciate that. I beleive I will use a 20-50 in the enging and primary and redline in the trans.  Thanks for the advice.
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Re: why different oils in each opening?
« Reply #12 on: September 21, 2010, 03:27:01 PM »

The biggest division in our group is the one group using a 20W50 20W60 Redline/ Amsoil or other group use a
straight 50W or 60W oil.

the heavier oil does quiet the top end, but the argument is, when cold does it lubricate as well on start ups.

the debate rages on............
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Re: why different oils in each opening?
« Reply #13 on: September 21, 2010, 03:30:03 PM »

The biggest division in our group is the one group using a 20W50 20W60 Redline/ Amsoil or other group use a
straight 50W or 60W oil.

the heavier oil does quiet the top end, but the argument is, when cold does it lubricate as well on start ups.

the debate rages on............



No debate here.
Scott said "use 20/60 Redline" so I do.
While everyone else is debating, I'll be out riding!

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Re: why different oils in each opening?
« Reply #14 on: September 21, 2010, 03:32:36 PM »


No debate here.
Scott said "use 20/60 Redline" so I do.
While everyone else is debating, I'll be out riding!

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