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[Tabatha]

KRNV-TV
updated 9/28/2010 9:45:19 AM ET
Share Print Font: + - MyNews4.com -- The Nevada Highway Patrol has released the latest incident numbers from Street Vibrations.

NHP reports that officers arrested 39 people, 21 of which were DUI arrests. There were 15 accidents, two of them fatal. NHP increased patrols for the event.

  ****This is a synopsis of the problems associated with "Street Vibrations" here in Reno,Nv..
The function was moved this year from Reno to the bedroom community of Sparks because of police costs and traffic congestion. The entire function is now under review. A major gang fight also took place.
          Bridgeport , a community just South of Reno, eliminated their motorcycle related functions which were geared toward entire community participation because of these types of biker problems !
           Can this be a preview of more rejection to come for the biking community !
 What do you suppose could be done to prevent these actions from becoming even more widespread and diminishing the future of "Biking Events"  ? 
         

[ak]

You never said where your band was?  on topic- one fatality was a women rider 45 years hit head on by an old guy going the wrong way on the freeway hard to avoid that one, could happen to the best of riders.  i,m sure New Years,4th of july,Hot August Nights, tittie tittie bang bang will show same or higher numbers...they au-ta set up a ring for gangs to fight let them have at it. Some rules 1 on 1, 5 on5 what ever they agree to...would be fun to watch-

[DDavidson]

I talked to Sparks Police who were at the event outside of the Nugget. (Three in total). Reno wanted a very high Toll for police security. Sparks did it for around a third and they said Sparks welcomed the event. I did not see any trouble while I was there. The Vagos wore their green at the Nugget and a few women members got a little loud rooting for their waiter yelling "nobody better "F()@!<" with him or they'll have to deal with the Vagos!" Carson seemed very mellow.

Bridgeport has a population of 836 and is 116 miles south of Reno. Great for a quick stop for food or a nights stay. One minute to drive through, don't think they'll be impacting Reno much.

I think 99% of riders are law abiding, good to get along with, and 99% of the citizens don't mind them. 1% of riders piss off 1% of the citizens. That 1% can sure get a lot of attention. I think all is good.

True rejection comes in the form of communities spending more than they get in return. If we get rid of the $2,000,000.00 in tax revenue coming from Street Vibrations we will have to cut out the Extracurricular activities at the schools. The casinos must be crying that the 3000 rooms at $125.00 per night, the 18,000 meals at $25.00 and the gambling and drinking dollars from these motorcycle riders is just too much of a burden.

We should get the real impact statistics in two months after they determine the increase in drug users and unwanted pregnancies. I can hear it now "Sheriff, you've got to do something, since those dirty no good bikers came to Reno Jamie's wanting to wear makeup and Junior wants a tattoo." Better lock the doors and bolt all the windows.

[JCZ]

I remember the rallys in Bridgeport......and the drags.  The good ol' days.  Eventually the law enforcement community starts wanting to much $ for what little return they got.

Hollister has fallen the same way.

Now Reno is added to that list.

How is it that Sparks was able to do it for 1/3 the cost of what Reno was charging?

What "gang fight"?  Never heard anything about that.........what gangs were involved?  Was it a real gang fight or just a few guys in for a good ol' fashioned street fight?

[harley56]

I remember the rallys in Bridgeport......and the drags.  The good ol' days.  Eventually the law enforcement community starts wanting to much $ for what little return they got.

Hollister has fallen the same way.

Now Reno is added to that list.

How is it that Sparks was able to do it for 1/3 the cost of what Reno was charging?

What "gang fight"?  Never heard anything about that.........what gangs were involved?  Was it a real gang fight or just a few guys in for a good ol' fashioned street fight?

Sparks was able to do it for 1/3 the cost because no matter how they may spin it, Reno got greedy over the years.

[JCZ]

Sparks was able to do it for 1/3 the cost because no matter how they may spin it, Reno got greedy over the years.

Exactly!  Same as Bridgeport and Hollister, too.

[Tabatha]

"I think 99% of riders are law abiding, good to get along with, and 99% of the citizens don't mind them. 1% of riders piss off 1% of the citizens. That 1% can sure get a lot of attention. I think all is good." Quote from....D31960
Elite CVO Member

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Wonder if these statistics are verified ! These are not the numbers being weighed by our City Council (both Reno and Sparks); the numbers being considered are very different and derived from Police and citizen complaint calls during Street Vibs.. ------1% of riders,if that is the correct number,surely have pissed off many more than 1% of the population !  

[Tabatha]

I remember the rallys in Bridgeport......and the drags.  The good ol' days.  Eventually the law enforcement community starts wanting to much $ for what little return they got.

Hollister has fallen the same way.

Now Reno is added to that list.

How is it that Sparks was able to do it for 1/3 the cost of what Reno was charging?

What "gang fight"?  Never heard anything about that.........what gangs were involved?  Was it a real gang fight or just a few guys in for a good ol' fashioned street fight?

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Posted: 10:56 AM Sep 26, 2010

Sparks Biker Brawl Leaves Man with Stab Wounds
Sparks police say a 23-year-old Carson City man is recovering from stab wounds after being involved in a large biker brawl Saturday night.
Reporter: Staff
Email Address: news@kolotv.com
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******Sparks police say a 23-year-old Carson City man is recovering from stab wounds after being involved in a large biker brawl Saturday night.

Around 9:40 pm, police were called to 45 Vista Blvd to break up a fight involving about 30 people, many of them members of motorcycle gangs.

 One man was stabbed and he was taken to Renown Medical Center and treated for non-life threatening wounds.

Police say the fight is still under investigation, and anyone who may have witnessed it should call Sparks Police Detectives at 353-2225 or Secret Witness at 322-4900.

...just cause you didn't hear about it doesn't make it "not so " !........

------------Good ol' fashion fun ?..............bring the kids too , huh ?

[DDavidson]

Reno population is apx 220,500 (Wiki). 1% is 2,205. Did they have over 2000 complaints? One valid complaint is one too many.

Hot August Nights gets the complainers too.

Complainers want to close down the Bay to Breakers in San Fran. Too many people drinking beer and wanting to urinate where there are no facilities.

Look to see who is complaining. If it's not the cars, it's the motorcycles. If it's not the music it's the TV shows. If it's not the teenagers it's the strip clubs. It's the smokers, the skateboarders, the pants baggy, the green hair, the baby crying, the dirty homeless, the chitting birds, the bright lights, the freeways, cattle, bison, wild mustangs, too many people visiting Yosemite, surfer events, Golden Gate suicides, diesel trucks, trains, 49er traffic, A's, Giants, Sharks, musicians, Mexicans, Crotch Rockets, dog poop, parking in front of my house, babies crying, luggage, mini skirts, hot pants, hookers, people who drive faster than me, people who drive slower than me, construction, hammering, sawing, leaf blowers, lawn mowers, uncut lawns, slow fast-food, plastic bags, bottled water, wrong directions.

Got to enjoy the Bike Jumps at Carson City with a couple of hundred other people. Ride into Reno was cool because of all the other bikes. (I did stop doing the "Rubber on the Road wave") The downtown though thin on action still had nice Booth Bimbos, some good vendors, and I didn't pay the meter. Sparks was livelier and I got a Mexican hotdog. Found a new windshield, got to people watch, listen to music, look at all of the hundreds of bikes, passed out all of my CVOHarley cards and enjoyed the day. And I talked Nugget registration into a room for the online rate of $117.00 even though I had no reservation. Had to leave on Saturday because a restaurant in Oakdale somehow kept my friends ATM card. I only saw people having a good time. Maybe the complainers didn't ride the same areas.

Couple of fights with that many people is nothing. With all of the recent school shootings I think the complainers would want to end education.

[miker]

My major complaint is that I could not go....what a beeyatch...dag nabbit...

[JCZ]

Reno population is apx 220,500 (Wiki). 1% is 2,205. Did they have over 2000 complaints? One valid complaint is one too many.

Hot August Nights gets the complainers too.

Complainers want to close down the Bay to Breakers in San Fran. Too many people drinking beer and wanting to urinate where there are no facilities.

Look to see who is complaining. If it's not the cars, it's the motorcycles. If it's not the music it's the TV shows. If it's not the teenagers it's the strip clubs. It's the smokers, the skateboarders, the pants baggy, the green hair, the baby crying, the dirty homeless, the chitting birds, the bright lights, the freeways, cattle, bison, wild mustangs, too many people visiting Yosemite, surfer events, Golden Gate suicides, diesel trucks, trains, 49er traffic, A's, Giants, Sharks, musicians, Mexicans, Crotch Rockets, dog poop, parking in front of my house, babies crying, luggage, mini skirts, hot pants, hookers, people who drive faster than me, people who drive slower than me, construction, hammering, sawing, leaf blowers, lawn mowers, uncut lawns, slow fast-food, plastic bags, bottled water, wrong directions.

Got to enjoy the Bike Jumps at Carson City with a couple of hundred other people. Ride into Reno was cool because of all the other bikes. (I did stop doing the "Rubber on the Road wave") The downtown though thin on action still had nice Booth Bimbos, some good vendors, and I didn't pay the meter. Sparks was livelier and I got a Mexican hotdog. Found a new windshield, got to people watch, listen to music, look at all of the hundreds of bikes, passed out all of my CVOHarley cards and enjoyed the day. And I talked Nugget registration into a room for the online rate of $117.00 even though I had no reservation. Had to leave on Saturday because a restaurant in Oakdale somehow kept my friends ATM card. I only saw people having a good time. Maybe the complainers didn't ride the same areas.

Couple of fights with that many people is nothing. With all of the recent school shootings I think the complainers would want to end education.

Outstanding job of making my point Don......thanks!  Except you forgot to mention those damn smokers in those casinos.              

Again, it's all about the municipalaties getting greedier and greedier each year.....nothing more, nothing less.

[JasonDeezy]

Like I was telling Jim yesterday (HD-Dude) when I went to pick up my bike, It needs to get back to where it was about 7 or 8 years ago. Back then most of the action was in downtown Reno on Virginia Street, right in front of the big 3 Casinos (Circus-Circus, Silver Legacy and El Dorado). All of the industry giants were on Virginia Street and the smaller companies were on the side streets. The bikes were all lined up from 6th Street all the way to 1st Street. You could stroll down there and see thousands of nice bikes. Now they have everything spread out everywhere and this just dilutes the whole event. I stayed at The GSR (Grand Sierra Resort) and they had their own event going on also. It was terrible. Matt Hotch was set up there along with Dragonfly Concepts and Ride Wright Wheels and some other companies. I walked through there on Friday and didn't go back to see if things were better on Saturday. We did go to Carson City HD on Saturday so that I could talk to Carl Brouhard and pick up more stuff from him. They had a nice gathering there with a stunt show and jumps. Not a whole bunch of vendors there but it was still a good time. I'll post pics of my Brouhard items once I get them all installed. As for the Nugget, I couldn't tell you about it because we didn't make it there. I thought that it was going to be similar to Carson City so we didn't bother going only to find out later that that's where alot of the major vendors were! Like I said before, everything was spread out over the entire region! It was in Reno, Sparks, Carson City and Virginia City (well, that's just one big party, not for selling too many products!). What I learned from talking to Carl was that there were 2 different promoters working Street Vibes this year. Vendors were paying different prices for booth spaces and trailer spaces and that didn't go over well with everybody. It really sucked not having vendors in just 1 or 2 places where you can see all of there products and compare them to others. Hopefully the promoters learn a lesson from the seemingly smaller turnout this year and work harder next year to get people back. DAMN THEM!

Sorry for my little rant...

[Tabatha]

Don't misunderstand-----I ride also and enjoy most all motorcycle related get-togethers. My whole thrust for this thread was , and is , that there are complaints no matter what a special interest group may do. It is the result of, and the number of, these complaints that concern me for the future of ,in particular, events such as Street Vibs.-----What "WE" as a special interest group can do to protect that which we enjoy is the essence of this thread. Not, how much a community "should overlook" nor what our special interest group of riders would like them to overlook; how can "WE" conduct ourselves in an attempt to save exactly what now has become a topic of great controversy, the future of Street Vibs. !
    BTW....I think of myself as a motorcycle rider not a "biker" , I enjoy motorcycles but do not live for them ! Like most of you, I have a family,even though grown,have retired twice and own a home in my community. All the while enjoying motorcycle riding !  JMHO !

[JCZ]

We've asked that same question for several decades (as we see these events fall by the way side) however, at the risk of sounding a bit pesamistic, I don't believe that you'll get a consensus here (or from any group) until you get  consensus on what the cause for the termination is.

If it's simply a matter of throwing more money at the city hosting the event (to hire more law enforcement or what ever perceived reason) as they claim, then that's your answer.......pay more.

I wrote the organizing committee of the Hollister Rally several years ago suggesting that they ask all the local business' that benafit (filled motels at twice or three times the normal rate, restaurants with standing room only, all day long each day, etc. etc.) to pitch in to help bankroll the expense side of the event.  Never heard back from them.  If all else fails........we always have the CVO GTGs that we create ourselves and the Nor Cal CVO group is excellent at it.  Not sure if you were met up with any of the CVO members that were in town during Street Vibrations but their a great bunch of people.....come on out and meet them and ride with them.

There are other locations that need the business and the promotors will move it to those locations (the same as it was started in Reno after Bridgeport was closed down).

You have me curious......you refer to yourself as a motorcycle rider and not a biker.  In your mind, what is the difference.......just so we'll know?

[Tabatha]

We've asked that same question for several decades (as we see these events fall by the way side) however, at the risk of sounding a bit pesamistic, I don't believe that you'll get a consensus here (or from any group) until you get  consensus on what the cause for the termination is.

If it's simply a matter of throwing more money at the city hosting the event (to hire more law enforcement or what ever perceived reason) as they claim, then that's your answer.......pay more.

I wrote the organizing committee of the Hollister Rally several years ago suggesting that they ask all the local business' that benafit (filled motels at twice or three times the normal rate, restaurants with standing room only, all day long each day, etc. etc.) to pitch in to help bankroll the expense side of the event.  Never heard back from them.  If all else fails........we always have the CVO GTGs that we create ourselves and the Nor Cal CVO group is excellent at it.  Not sure if you were met up with any of the CVO members that were in town during Street Vibrations but their a great bunch of people.....come on out and meet them and ride with them.

There are other locations that need the business and the promotors will move it to those locations (the same as it was started in Reno after Bridgeport was closed down).

You have me curious......you refer to yourself as a motorcycle rider and not a biker.  In your mind, what is the difference.......just so we'll know?

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Merriam Webster says it very well:bik·er noun \ˈbī-kər\
Definition of BIKER
1: bicyclist
2: motorcyclist; especially : one who is a member of an organized club or gang
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rid·er noun \ˈrī-dər\
Definition of RIDER
1: one that rides
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  OK  ?--------Now we all know ! I don't need peer approval,endorsement,sanction,agreement nor ratification to prize that which I truly enjoy. Respect and admiration ,in my world, is earned rather than obtained by joining a "gang" as Webster refers to ! Much like the Harley adage,---------------------------------------------"If you don't know by now , I can't explain." .