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Re: Annual Cam Chest Inspection....
« Reply #45 on: November 14, 2010, 10:18:22 PM »

your doing fine,  i spell as a please 
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Re: Annual Cam Chest Inspection....
« Reply #46 on: November 14, 2010, 10:19:15 PM »

tim is this going anywhere useful? sadunbar is sharing his experience. i doubt you would appreciate him telling you you were "crying" in a thread you started to share your experiences.
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Re: Annual Cam Chest Inspection....
« Reply #47 on: November 14, 2010, 10:19:27 PM »

thank you  hope you are bowing down
Maybe you should try to do the same. Everyone is entitled to an opinion but don't :beatdeadhorse: Why don't you give it a rest.

It's a $30 part that is being replaced if the OP wants to replace it it's his money his time.

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Re: Annual Cam Chest Inspection....
« Reply #48 on: November 14, 2010, 10:36:47 PM »

Gary will probably move this to the selling section, start a new thread, whip me with a chain and (potentially) fart in an easterly direction in an attempt to punitively blow me off my keyboard.  But this does seem contextual to this thread so it seems worthwhile to post here:

For Sale:  Used Cam Tensioners.  Minor Grooves.  Some pitting.  Can't be seen through (unless you shine a light behind them--so don't shine a light behind them and they are 100% better parts).  Cost $30 new.  Sell these for $29.95.  Exceptional discount for these excellent used parts that are designed to begin with to be sacrificial wear parts intended to be tossed.  Not to be used by whiney people or Canadians.  Postage not included.  No pics.
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Re: Annual Cam Chest Inspection....
« Reply #49 on: November 14, 2010, 10:47:43 PM »

and (potentially) fart in an easterly direction in an attempt to punitively blow me off my keyboard. 

OK Don, I determined your .666 math sucks but now I must call in question your sense of direction.
d00ds in Virginia, your in Missouri, if d00d farts easterly , , well you get the drift.
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Re: Annual Cam Chest Inspection....
« Reply #50 on: November 14, 2010, 10:52:09 PM »

OK Don, I determined your .666 math sucks but now I must call in question your sense of direction.
d00ds in Virginia, your in Missouri, if d00d farts easterly , , well you get the drift.
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Well.....  Chip; it's like this.  This was an issue of self preservation.  I was close to a Dood-fart once in Maggie Valley.  A truly awe inspiring exhibition. 

Knowing that the prior posting might be an invitation for a recurrence I did at least want to be sure that the fart in question would have to take the long way around the world before it got here.  If it (the fart) came straight here from Virginia the US might benefit from a new tunnel through the Blue Ridge but nothing else good would come of it.  Let the French suffer....
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Re: Annual Cam Chest Inspection....
« Reply #51 on: November 14, 2010, 10:57:15 PM »

Well.....  Chip; it's like this.  This was an issue of self preservation.  I was close to a Dood-fart once in Maggie Valley.  A truly awe inspiring exhibition. 

Knowing that the prior posting might be an invitation for a recurrence I did at least want to be sure that the fart in question would have to take the long way around the world before it got here.  If it (the fart) came straight here from Virginia the US might benefit from a new tunnel through the Blue Ridge but nothing else good would come of it.  Let the French suffer....

OK, ok I defer to your vast experience with the d00dmeister!
If indeed it's going easterly then I'm glad I'm on this side of the Blue Ridge.

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Re: Annual Cam Chest Inspection....
« Reply #52 on: November 15, 2010, 09:11:20 AM »

I and a few others have see this wear on the HYD Chain Tensioners with the use of the fueling oil pumps, Have not seen any other than ones that were assembled wrong go bad or wear with this low of miles on the 07 up bikes and 06 Dynas.   Doc
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Re: Annual Cam Chest Inspection....
« Reply #53 on: November 15, 2010, 09:32:54 AM »

I and a few others have see this wear on the HYD Chain Tensioners with the use of the fueling oil pumps, Have not seen any other than ones that were assembled wrong go bad or wear with this low of miles on the 07 up bikes and 06 Dynas.   Doc


Mine were bad enough at 20K miles that they were changed at Harley's expense.
The motor was stock.

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Re: Annual Cam Chest Inspection....
« Reply #54 on: November 15, 2010, 10:43:24 AM »

Hmmm... so much for my theory
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Re: Annual Cam Chest Inspection....
« Reply #55 on: November 15, 2010, 01:56:39 PM »


IMHO, you should not get "chunking" of the shoe material if the vendor isn't dumping a bunch of regrind scrap into the mix.  Wonder if Harley is using the same lousy vendor they had for the shoes on the earlier bikes?

As for the grooves worn into the shoes (no chunking), what exactly do you folks expect?  If you press a softer material against a rapidly moving harder material, the softer material will wear away.  This is not rocket science, nor is it anything new.  Next time you have your primary cover off, take a close look at the tensioner shoe for the primary chain.  You will find two parallel grooves in that one also.

My biggest complaint, other than the cheap crap passed off by the vendor that Harley tolerates and passes off to us, is that they don't design it with enough material to last the life of the engine.  Similar hydraulic cam chain tensioner systems have been used in overhead cam auto engines for ages, without all the drama and failures experienced by Harley owners.  I guess if you assume the useful life of a Harley engine is 20k miles then their design is OK, otherwise they need to remove their heads from their nether regions and learn how to do this stuff right.  And perhaps try doing some unannounced quality visits at their supplier's plant to look at just what kind of crap they throw into the mixing vat.


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